Russian Passenger Plane Crashes Over Egypt

Just a thought ... the U.S and U.K keep parroting the thesis of a bomb, yet it's reported "that no residue of explosives has been found."
Would a Direct Energy Weapon (DEW) from a laser produce the sudden flash of light (minus smoke signature) claimed by the U.S.?
Would a DEW-laser emit a signature similar to the plane coming into contact with a fireball or meteorite?

U.S. military sees more use of laser, microwave weapons
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/28/usa-military-arms-idUSL1N10819V20150728

Back dated Tue Jul 28, 2015.
Lasers, microwaves and other directed energy weapons could soon be used more widely by the U.S. military, top armed forces officials and U.S. lawmakers told an industry conference on Tuesday.

The officials described weapons that are in various stages of development and testing by the U.S. Navy, Marine Corps, Air Force and Army, but said more work was needed to develop tactics for their use and to ensure sufficient funding.

"Directed energy brings the dawn of an entirely new era in defense," Lieutenant General William Etter, Commander, Continental U.S. North American Aerospace Defense Command Region, told a conference hosted by Booz Allen Hamilton and the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessment in Washington.

Directed energy refers to weapons that emit focused energy in the form of lasers, microwaves, electromagnetic radiation, radio waves, sound or particle beams.

Mabus said Iran and other countries were already using lasers to target ships and commercial airliners, and the U.S. military needed to accelerate often cumbersome acquisition processes to ensure that it stayed ahead of potential foes.

Major General Jerry Harris, vice commander of Air Combat Command, said the Air Force had developed a high-power microwave weapon that could be used to disperse crowds in a non-lethal manner by rapidly raising their body temperature. He said the system could be used on drones or other aircraft and be put to use immediately.
 
angelburst29 said:
Just a thought ... the U.S and U.K keep parroting the thesis of a bomb, yet it's reported "that no residue of explosives has been found."
Would a Direct Energy Weapon (DEW) from a laser produce the sudden flash of light (minus smoke signature) claimed by the U.S.?
Would a DEW-laser emit a signature similar to the plane coming into contact with a fireball or meteorite?

Well, I've read that the Israelis have also demonstarted their new laser defense systems in Korea a couple of weeks ago, but those are anti-drone and anti-rocket systems:

Laser weapons work by burning a hole through a drone, either disabling its computery guts or making it crash because there’s a hole in its wing and it can’t keep flying. Lasers are tricky because they take a lot of power, and the beam has to stay focused on the drone long enough to burn through, so they also require sophisticated targeting cameras and software. That’s a lot of hurdles to overcome, but the end result is a weapon that’s fast and very, very cheap on a per-shot basis.

Rafael’s Iron Beam comes in two variants. One is designed to destroy rockets and mortar shells, stopping the small and cheap explosives before they land and cause damage. Another is designed to take out drones. The company says it's been very successful in tests, but hasn't revealed more information that that.

The range on these systems is just over 1 and a quarter miles, and they use radar to track targets first before switching to thermal cameras. The Iron Beam system fits in a shipping crate and can be used in place or mounted on the back of a truck. Because it’s a laser weapon, it can keep shooting for as long as it has electrical power. That makes it an ideal defense against low-tech attacks, because while the system itself is expensive, per use it’s likely cheaper than the weapons it is destroying.

Read more: _http://www.popsci.com/israels-rafael-shows-off-anti-drone-laser-in-korea
 
loreta said:
Konstantin said:
Or , what if all those countries that have cancelled their flights to Egypt know that maybe some king of weather, atmospheric, electromagnetic anomaly is present somewhere in that area, and they dont want to risk anymore. And all that ISIS bomb missile story is just an attempt to score, just a chance to show that they are still capable to fight back despite all that Russian airstrikes.

Can it be something solar? Like what happened in Sweeden 3 days ago?
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Combining celestial events can there be a very widely possibilities more in conjunction with the soil over here!!, the more I know, the more I know I do not know much, ...anyways, it reminded me about the Zone of Silence in Mexico.

_https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mapim%C3%AD_Silent_Zone said:
The Mapimí Silent Zone (Spanish: La Zona del Silencio) is the popular name for a desert patch near the Bolsón de Mapimí in Durango, Mexico, overlapping the Mapimí Biosphere Reserve. It is the subject of an urban myth that claims it is an area where radio signals and any type of communications cannot be received.

However, communications equipment tends to work properly in the zone. Guides assert that the zone moves around; as a result locals are highly skeptical of the zone's existence.

In July 1970, an Athena test missile launched from a U.S. military base near Green River, Utah toward White Sands Missile Range lost control and fell in the Mapimí Desert region.[4] The rocket was carrying two small containers of cobalt 57, a radioactive element commonly associated with the construction of Salted bombs.[5][6] After several weeks of searching, local farmers found and reported the crash in the Northeast corner of the State of Durango. Once the rocket was found, a road was built to transport the wreckage, along with a small amount of contaminated top soil. As a result of the US Air Force recovery operations there, a number of myths and stories relating to the area arose, including "strange magnetic anomalies that prevent radio transmission", mutations of flora and fauna, and extraterrestrial visitations

Curious wikipedia is, locals are not skeptical and others/we, are not either, had been there, clocks did not work, was interesting. Found more in english..

_http://www.ancient-origins.net/unexplained-phenomena/mexico-zone-silence-00287 said:
Mexico: The Zone of Silence

...
The first incident here occurred in the 1930’s when a pilot by the name of Francisco Sarabia was flying over the area and claimed his instruments went wild and his radio stopped working. Later, in the 1970’s, attention was drawn to the area when a faulty American missile was fired from the White Sands Missile Base in New Mexico and crashed—or perhaps was pulled—into the region.

Research has since been done at the site, and the Mexican government has constructed a research complex said to be studying the unusual local habitat and wildlife. Theorists speculate the government is studying more than it is admitting, and there are plenty of anomalies to research in the Zone. One of the many unusual observable properties in this area is its high levels of magnetite and uranium deposits, to which scientists attribute electromagnetic pulses that are said to be the source of the disrupted signals. The area is also a hotbed for meteorites, the remnants of which scientists theorize exude magnetic properties that may explain why so many iron-rich objects from space end up here.

Other, more unexplainable, activity of this nature is reported here, such as the area’s reputation for strange lights, UFO sightings and alien encounters. Some even believe it has been used in the past—and present—as a portal for aliens. Ranchers have cited tales of strange lights and odd strangers that appear from nowhere and claim to come “from above”. In fact, the same three blonde strangers have often been spotted by multiple witnesses. Also, the witnesses of some of the unexplainable flying being described as ‘disc-like’—that were thought to have landed found physical evidence in the form of burned brush and vegetation at the touchdown sites.

On an interesting note, the Zone of Silence is geographically parallel with the Egyptian pyramids and the Bermuda Triangle, and is located just north of the Tropic of Cancer. Scientists at the Mexican research center have coined the area the Sea of Thetys because it lay at the bottom of an ocean millions of years ago. Can any of this explain the numerous strange incidents here?

No concrete evidence has been found to support the claims of extraterrestrial activity in this area, though there are undoubtedly several occurrences that cannot be explained. If the Zone has a rare magnetic pull, one has to speculate the extent of the effect it has on the happenings in the area. Could this area possibly be another Bermuda Triangle of activity? It certainly exhibits much of the same behavior. Add to that the countless testaments of extraterrestrial sightings and this area is certainly a hotbed of activity that requires considerable exploration.
 
Konstantin said:
Or , what if all those countries that have cancelled their flights to Egypt know that maybe some king of weather, atmospheric, electromagnetic anomaly is present somewhere in that area, and they dont want to risk anymore. And all that ISIS bomb missile story is just an attempt to score, just a chance to show that they are still capable to fight back despite all that Russian airstrikes.


I think that the western countries under the US influence nowadays don't know nothing about anything. They are just re-emitting the messages written for them in Washington. And Washington are just pure psychopathy and nothing much more than that. There are few elements here and there who know something, but they are not in the power.

I think that Russia canceled the flights in the area because they are aware that the West could now try to plant real bombs in other planes. To made the story that their champions (ISIS) are capable of that plausible. And the area is such that they (Russia) cant have control over the commercial flights. So the planted bomb NOW is the real threat. To cut it short, Russia canceled flights 'just in case . . .'
 
Nicolas said:
Interesting news report of an incident with a UK passenger jet in August: New report reveals UK passenger plane dodged missile above Sharm el-Sheikh in August.

Could this report be just more scare mongering or is it true?

When reading the article, noticed it didn't have any identifying information, like the Pilots name or even an airline identification number?

"A UK plane carrying 189 passengers came within 1,000 feet of a missile as it approached Egypt's Sharm el-Sheikh airport on August 23, The Daily Mail newspaper reported Saturday.

The Thomson Airways flight from London Stansted airport only took the evasive action after the pilot spotted the missile, according to the media. The aircraft landed safely, and the passengers were not informed the plane had nearly missed the crash, the media said."


Well, I looked to find - who "the media" was, even went back in The Daily Mails archives to the beginning of August and found no such report? Searched the internet but kept coming back or re-directed back to the Daily Mail Nov. 6th publication. My guess, at this point - it's "a planted article?" Seems - this is another one, also published Nov. 6th - for I don't see any of the Russian outlets picking it up?

Putin's special forces 'foil ISIS terror attack' planned for south Russia after woman led police to the group after her Jihadi husband took a second wife
_http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3307196/Putin-s-special-forces-foil-ISIS-terror-attack-planned-south-Russia-woman-led-police-group-Jihadi-husband-took-second-wife.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

Russian Special Forces have prevented an ISIS terror attack in the south of Russia after uncovering a huge bomb hidden in plastic casks on the side of the road.

The terror attack was scheduled to take place in the village of Kantyshevo in south-western Russia's Republic of Ingushetia.

Russian security services said the bomb contained 3.5 tonnes (7,716 lbs) of explosives.
 
Interesting developments in California - with Secret Military Operations - diverting traffic at Los Angeles International Airport.

Secret military operations to divert LAX planes for a week
http://abc7.com/news/secret-military-operations-to-divert-lax-planes-for-a-week/1072890/

Friday, November 06, 2015 - Mysterious maneuvers over the Pacific are forcing a change in Los Angeles International Airport landings late at night, meaning noise for thousands of people in the flight path.

Instead of landing from the east over Inglewood, planes begin flying from the west and over the ocean to keep noise levels down, but due to secret military operations, the airspace over the Pacific is closed to incoming flights for the next week.

"We clearly understand that neighbors and communities east of the airport will experience noise and we apologize for that," said Nancy Castles, LAX public relations director.

The military is not saying what exactly is causing the change, and LAX claims it's also in the dark. Castles said all they know is planes can't be flying at low altitudes to our west.


Naval missile test flight causes bright light to streak across sky (Video's)
http://abc7.com/news/hundreds-report-mystery-light-flying-through-sky/1073739/

Saturday, November 07, 2015 - LOS ANGELES (KABC) --
A missile test flight from a submarine left hundreds of people from Southern California to Nevada and Arizona perplexed as it caused a bright light to streak across the sky Saturday night.

The Pentagon issued a statement that the Navy Strategic Systems Programs conducted a scheduled test of a Trident II (D5) missile from USS Kentucky, an Ohio class submarine.

The missile was not armed, according to the statement, and tests are conducted on a frequent, recurring basis to ensure reliability of the system.

Residents from Ventura to as far as Nevada and Arizona took photos and videos of the strange phenomenon around 6 p.m.

It is unclear if the flight diversions of Los Angeles International Airport planes over the Pacific has to do with the missile tests.

The Orange County Sheriff's Department tweeted earlier in the evening that the light was a test conducted by the U.S. Navy off the coast.

The Malibu-Lost Hills Sheriff's Station also tweeted that there were military exercises being performed off the coast of Catalina Island,
while an astronomer at Griffith Observatory said the object could have been a comet or meteor.

Jonathon Payne said the light, believed to be a single comet, was a precursor to the Taurid meteor shower that is expected this month. When a comet comes into the atmosphere, it is normal for there to be a white light and then a blue and green streak, according to Payne.

Vandenberg Air Force Base did not launch any rockets Saturday evening, according to a representative.

Twitter users became engaged in a heated debate over the origins of the bright light, claiming it was not a missile test but that it could have been a UFO or a comet.


The Infamous Video of an Aircraft Exploding in Air at High Altitude and the “Big Chutzpah” Construct
https://alethonews.wordpress.com/2015/11/07/the-infamous-video-of-an-aircraft-exploding-in-air-at-high-altitude-and-the-big-chutzpah-construct/

Saturday November 7, 2015 - Only a day after the Russian Metrojet airliner Flight 9268 went down, killing 224 people, a short video went onto the Internet on YouTube, purporting to show the explosion of the Airbus 321-200 aircraft in mid-air, at roughly 30 thousand feet elevation. This video was immediately ridiculed because the group claiming responsibility for bringing down the airliner, ISIS, which was said to have presented the video as proof, did not have the sophisticated military capacity, according to intelligence analysts, to shoot down any aircraft at such an altitude. Yet the video did not show a missile approaching the jet, nor did the group claim to have shot it down in such a manner. It simply showed an explosive burst, consistent with a bomb being detonated, and heavy black smoke trailing the aircraft as it subsequently descended.

Even though a civilian style aircraft, with two engines mounted below its wings, can be discerned, and no such video had previously been seen — nor were there reports of any civilian aircraft with such features having exploded in mid-air during daytime — the video was denounced as a fake (computer generated imagery) nonetheless, perhaps because the video quality was poor or not sufficiently specific, which was suspiciously indicative of an attempt to obfuscate any confirmatory information.

A dose of skepticism is certainly legitimate when being presented with such videos, which may be intended to convey false political propaganda. However, since no compelling proof of the imagery not possibly showing what was claimed has yet been presented, the authenticity cannot be completely discounted. Indeed, this question is currently a point of discussion on some technical forums. What appears to be the case is that the shaky nature of both embedded videos — a second version appears at 20 seconds in the 32 second video — both came from two mobile phone camera recordings that were taken of a screen playback of the explosion. It has also been suggested that the imagery was actually shot from another aircraft following the fateful jet from farther below. Though this was likely the case, it would not necessarily invalidate the claimed authenticity of this particular jet being shown.

It should be noted that a professional quality video recording, filmed through a heavy zoom lens mounted upon a camera on a stationary tripod, would provide investigators with sufficient information to calculate a small circle on the ground from where the shots were most probably taken, which would likely not be in the interest of the perpetrators or co-conspirators. If, for the sake of argument, one presumes the authenticity of what was being filmed, then the most interesting and compelling proof of a desire to obfuscate and mislead comes from the obvious image reversal, which is particularly evident during the first second. The sky to the left of the screen is bright whereas, in stark contrast, it is dark on the right side, though exactly the opposite should be the case because the jet was then flying northward at a track of 340° in the morning, shortly after sunrise.

The ground track in the eastern portion of the Sinai peninsula during the final minutes of flight was exactly parallel to and 40 km away from the border between Israel and Egypt. The mid-air explosion occurred west of the highest mountain in the Negev Desert (Har Raman, 1035 meters), not hard to make out on a topographic map of the area. The impulse of the explosion and its aerodynamic effects then changed the heading of the aircraft by more then 15°. When viewing the video through a mirror to correct the image reversal, one sees that the vantage point of the camera is behind, below, and to the right (east) of the aircraft’s flight path. When one accepts the notion that the incident was filmed from another aircraft, pursuing the Airbus in roughly the same direction, then one must logically conclude that the video was taken from within — or just slightly outside of — Israeli airspace, likely by a surveillance drone, operating in the southern region, north of Eilat. One would expect Israeli surveillance drones to operate here on a regular basis because this region, at the northernmost part in the Gulf of Aqaba, is strategically important; the borders of Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Israel, and Egypt nearly converge here.

While the notion of a military drone operating near this particular region on a Saturday morning may not be unusual, what certainly should raise some questions is that the Russian Metrojet aircraft — assuming, as before, that the video is not a fake but authentic — would have been pursued and filmed (surveillance operations would be more interested in what happens on the ground rather than pursuing a civilian airliner emitting its tracking data by beacon and not posing a potential threat). Even more worthy of question or inquiry is that these modified (second-hand) video versions of the on-board explosion and descent of the aircraft would be loaded onto the Internet the next day, allegedly by the ISIS terrorist group, which has been publicly exposed to be in an alliance with Israel, the United States, and Saudi Arabia in the Syrian battleground.


While the concept of the “Big Lie” is based on the idea that (nearly) everyone will believe a major fabrication that is completely untrue because these heavily conditioned people couldn’t possibly imagine that their government would dare lie to them so blatantly about something so important, viewers of the video may have been subjected to the opposite phenomenon, namely “Big Chutzpah”, the raw truth presented right in your face in such a brazen way that (nearly) everyone will still refuse to believe it because these people cannot possibly imagine that the Israeli government would dare to actually do something like that.
 
angelburst29 said:
Naval missile test flight causes bright light to streak across sky (Video's)
http://abc7.com/news/hundreds-report-mystery-light-flying-through-sky/1073739/

Saturday, November 07, 2015 - LOS ANGELES (KABC) --
A missile test flight from a submarine left hundreds of people from Southern California to Nevada and Arizona perplexed as it caused a bright light to streak across the sky Saturday night.

The Pentagon issued a statement that the Navy Strategic Systems Programs conducted a scheduled test of a Trident II (D5) missile from USS Kentucky, an Ohio class submarine.

The missile was not armed, according to the statement, and tests are conducted on a frequent, recurring basis to ensure reliability of the system.

Residents from Ventura to as far as Nevada and Arizona took photos and videos of the strange phenomenon around 6 p.m.

It is unclear if the flight diversions of Los Angeles International Airport planes over the Pacific has to do with the missile tests.

The Orange County Sheriff's Department tweeted earlier in the evening that the light was a test conducted by the U.S. Navy off the coast.

The Malibu-Lost Hills Sheriff's Station also tweeted that there were military exercises being performed off the coast of Catalina Island,
while an astronomer at Griffith Observatory said the object could have been a comet or meteor.

Jonathon Payne said the light, believed to be a single comet, was a precursor to the Taurid meteor shower that is expected this month. When a comet comes into the atmosphere, it is normal for there to be a white light and then a blue and green streak, according to Payne.

Vandenberg Air Force Base did not launch any rockets Saturday evening, according to a representative.

Twitter users became engaged in a heated debate over the origins of the bright light, claiming it was not a missile test but that it could have been a UFO or a comet.

That's eerily reminiscent of all the speculation that came out following the unusual spiral effect from the missile in Norway some years ago.
Mystery as spiral blue light display hovers above Norway
 
All this cancelations of flights reminded me that C's said that air traffic will ultimately be halted... Maybe change/merge of realities is more manifestable in the air than on a "firm ground due to "lighter density of atmosfere" - like new physical variables are occuring through 4th density glitches :huh:
 
Just read Joe's article, so if i understood correctly, in theory the idea that some man made EMP weapon( used by the US, Israel...) to take down the flight 9268 is a damage control campaign promoted through western media(by the TPB) with the intent of obscuring the real cause of the downing of the flight 9268, which theoretically speaking may have been a meteor explosion above in the atmosphere or an unusual weather phenomenon like an extreme microburst as Joe mentioned in the first article he wrote about the Russian plane crash. Don't know, I'm open towards this kind of scenario( EMP weapons used by 3d/4d consortium) but i think this time it's not that case...
Let's see what else will surface up in the next days, weeks.
 
Andre' said:
Just read Joe's article, so if i understood correctly, in theory the idea that some man made EMP weapon( used by the US, Israel...) to take down the flight 9268 is a damage control campaign promoted through western media(by the TPB) with the intent of obscuring the real cause of the downing of the flight 9268, which theoretically speaking may have been a meteor explosion above in the atmosphere or an unusual weather phenomenon like an extreme microburst as Joe mentioned in the first article he wrote about the Russian plane crash. Don't know, I'm open towards this kind of scenario( EMP weapons used by 3d/4d consortium) but i think this time it's not that case...
Let's see what else will surface up in the next days, weeks.

No. the "EMP weapon" is more likely to have been the cause.
 
Perceval said:
No. the "EMP weapon" is more likely to have been the cause.

Thanks for posting the article Joe. The possibility of a directed EMP weapon is definitely possible given the data available.

I am not familiar with how EMP weapons work (will dig into it) but can it also explain the sudden downwards "push" of the plane?
 
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