Psalehesost said:
While I appreciate you and anart trying to be helpful, in retrospect I think the subject of OPs is related only tangentally to AIToday and I's discussion, though he could correct me on this. Plus I already know about OPs :P
Session 11 June 2011
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While I appreciate you and anart trying to be helpful, in retrospect I think the subject of OPs is related only tangentally to AIToday and I's discussion, though he could correct me on this. Plus I already know about OPs :P
psychegram
The Living Force
I just got through the full thread, and wow! Thank you, Laura, and everyone else at the Chateau for putting this up.
I've been experimenting this week with eating just meat and eggs for breakfast - no toast - and wow! I don't get hungry until well after lunch. Fat really is a more efficient fuel....
And like so many others here, I have some experience with fanatical vegetarians and vegans. One person in particular ... she's been vegan for years now, and it's starting to seriously interfere with her health. The difference between her now, and a few years ago, is quite terrifying. But the worse the malnutrition becomes, the more fanatically devoted to the diet she becomes. I wish there were something I could do but of course, whenever the subject comes up (usually in the context of her making some kind of verbal attack whenever she sees me eating meat) her assumption is that some day I will 'see the light' and give up meat for good.
I've been sensing something like this for a while ... and didn't the C's mention that the door was going to shut, soon, so to speak? Also along these lines, Harold Camping's explanation that his predicted end of the world was in fact, a spiritual event - widely derided in the media - seems to be in resonance with this. Lately it has felt as though I am amongst the doomed, walking dead
and worried that I might be among them. I have not been detoxing or EEing nearly as much as I should have been :/
I've been experimenting this week with eating just meat and eggs for breakfast - no toast - and wow! I don't get hungry until well after lunch. Fat really is a more efficient fuel....
And like so many others here, I have some experience with fanatical vegetarians and vegans. One person in particular ... she's been vegan for years now, and it's starting to seriously interfere with her health. The difference between her now, and a few years ago, is quite terrifying. But the worse the malnutrition becomes, the more fanatically devoted to the diet she becomes. I wish there were something I could do but of course, whenever the subject comes up (usually in the context of her making some kind of verbal attack whenever she sees me eating meat) her assumption is that some day I will 'see the light' and give up meat for good.
I've been sensing something like this for a while ... and didn't the C's mention that the door was going to shut, soon, so to speak? Also along these lines, Harold Camping's explanation that his predicted end of the world was in fact, a spiritual event - widely derided in the media - seems to be in resonance with this. Lately it has felt as though I am amongst the doomed, walking dead
and worried that I might be among them. I have not been detoxing or EEing nearly as much as I should have been :/"Are the C's referring specifically to Laura or the Chateau crew when mentioning that harm to them would result in the total destruction of STS?
I'm assuming by "they", the C's mean 4D STS. But what of by "all else", the material universe?
I feel that the C's are referring to the "presence" as the sum of aware people on Earth."
This is a genuine question. Please discuss. I have no need too "prove anything".
( Moderator(s) please insert question here
I'm assuming by "they", the C's mean 4D STS. But what of by "all else", the material universe?
I feel that the C's are referring to the "presence" as the sum of aware people on Earth."
This is a genuine question. Please discuss. I have no need too "prove anything".
( Moderator(s) please insert question here
yamez said:"Are the C's referring specifically to Laura or the Chateau crew when mentioning that harm to them would result in the total destruction of STS?
I'm assuming by "they", the C's mean 4D STS. But what of by "all else", the material universe?
I feel that the C's are referring to the "presence" as the sum of aware people on Earth."
This is a genuine question. Please discuss. I have no need too "prove anything".
( Moderator(s) please insert question here
maybe you should ask yourself this question : why do I post this a second time ?
why do you say this
?
NewOrleans
Jedi Master
Dear Pashalis, excuse me, Gurdjieff Junior, when you challenge someone's words as not genuine or disingenuous you're being a bully. Not a teacher.
I'd be a little more indifferent and accepting of this if you didn't do it to me before now in the same blunt way. Maybe English isn't you're first language - I don't know - but your words come off sounding harsh, and I get the feeling, from anart's reply to you once, that you do this often. Some food for thought: try kindness with your inquiry.
You have a lot to teach but perhaps your choice of words could use some thoughtfulness.
I'd be a little more indifferent and accepting of this if you didn't do it to me before now in the same blunt way. Maybe English isn't you're first language - I don't know - but your words come off sounding harsh, and I get the feeling, from anart's reply to you once, that you do this often. Some food for thought: try kindness with your inquiry.
You have a lot to teach but perhaps your choice of words could use some thoughtfulness.
yamez said:"Are the C's referring specifically to Laura or the Chateau crew when mentioning that harm to them would result in the total destruction of STS?
I'm assuming by "they", the C's mean 4D STS. But what of by "all else", the material universe?
I feel that the C's are referring to the "presence" as the sum of aware people on Earth."
This is a genuine question. Please discuss. I have no need too "prove anything".
( Moderator(s) please insert question here
I think that the reason you haven't got an answer is that it is open to interpretation. What exactly the Cs meant is something only the Cs can tell! But rest assured that you aren't simply being ignored. Sometimes people ask questions in the forum; sometimes they get many replies and others they get none. It doesn't mean their post hasn't been read and members aren't thinking about it.
If you ask me if I think the Cs meant Laura, the chateau crew, the forum or all of the above plus a few more people, I would say "I don't know!". Likewise, when they say "they", they may mean the 3D STS elite, their 4D STS controllers, or both - who knows? The important point is that there seems to be a balancing principle that will not allow the positive side of the equation to be completely nullified. It's the knowledge of the principle that matters, and if we can't get the details right at this time, perhaps it doesn't matter?
One thing I can tell you is that by "all else" the Cs did not mean the entire material universe (i.e. billions and billions of galaxies) because that wouldn't make sense. I'm pretty sure they are just referring to this planet as a place for this type of life and lessons.
NewOrleans
Jedi Master
With all due respect, dear Pashalis- It was not with anger but civility that I challenge this. I've learned from you before and I respect your inquiring mind. Words mean things and crafting a question less ferociously and more inquisitively would do the trick. As a last resort you could always add a smiley face to sweeten your words. (joke) Every sincere learner is more or less equal regardless of number of posts logged in. We don't need to crush the flower to smell it.
curious_richard
Jedi Master
Pashalis said:
It seems to me that yamez was "demanding" that we discuss a topic. Yamez complained that we were ignoring him or her. (I think that ignoring is a polite way of saying "no".)
To me, it seems that you were a bit harsh in responding to yamez's demands. You could have ignored him. If you felt that yamez was getting rude, you could have used the "report to moderator" button. (I was thinking about doing that if yamez continued to make more demands.)
This is how I saw things. Hope this helps.
NewOrleans
Jedi Master
Perhaps Yamez, like every newbie, is a bit impatient to get feedback - I know I foolishly was - but it's not a crime. Complaining, Curious_Richard? I guess we read nuance differently. Getting used to the pace and thoughtfulness of this Forum takes a bit of time. But I don't think this guy was demanding in a rude way.
There is "silence" and then there is "ignoring". Both seem the same, unless intentions are revealed."Ignoring" seems passive aggressive when you want to not answer deliberately. Is it an opportunity here or a snub? Is there a way to point this person to specific transcripts that illuminate the answers he's seeking without malice or superiority?
Yamez, there are answers here and sometimes you need to do your own digging. Good hunting.
There is "silence" and then there is "ignoring". Both seem the same, unless intentions are revealed."Ignoring" seems passive aggressive when you want to not answer deliberately. Is it an opportunity here or a snub? Is there a way to point this person to specific transcripts that illuminate the answers he's seeking without malice or superiority?
Yamez, there are answers here and sometimes you need to do your own digging. Good hunting.
efeuvete
Padawan Learner
yamez said:"Are the C's referring specifically to Laura or the Chateau crew when mentioning that harm to them would result in the total destruction of STS?
I'm assuming by "they", the C's mean 4D STS. But what of by "all else", the material universe?
I feel that the C's are referring to the "presence" as the sum of aware people on Earth."
This is a genuine question. Please discuss. I have no need too "prove anything".
( Moderator(s) please insert question here
IMO, the question about if C's refer to "The Chateau" or to the sum of aware people on Earth I think is not a bad one. If I could I would ask them; this way:
- How much people on Earth have similar conscience level as the "Chateau people" have today?
The other point regarding "All the material Universe" does have not much interest to me; I mean, just with the end of a bunch of people near my heart and the end of the place where I live is enough... I'm done.
