Session 14 October 2017

Lorraine said:
Thank you for the session. The LV shooting was shocking and I felt a huge sense of anger that these psychopaths did their best to kill so many people senselessly and that there is no stopping them. It took me a while to get over feeling so sad for all humanity.

I often felt that the psychos are seething with hatred as they are watching on their TV sets the celebrating, dancing masses of little people having fun all around the world:
- "So little sheep.. you feel good? Here! Let us spoil your fun big time and shock you senseless!"

Maybe that's why they plan attacking recreational places, concerts, marathon, restaurants, where people could have had a really good, fun time. How could they allow little sheep coming up with innocent new kinds of mass entertainments, festivals during the decades? Not as long as these psychos live!
 
SocietyoftheSpectacle said:
"G" by putting into people's minds an Idea , through Hypnosis
or "FORCED" Identification,
was giving them an Idea that the "Processing of would lead to Understanding the process itself "

Any clearer ?

Have you read Tamdgidi's book and also the Collingwood books?
 
lilies said:
Lorraine said:
Thank you for the session. The LV shooting was shocking and I felt a huge sense of anger that these psychopaths did their best to kill so many people senselessly and that there is no stopping them. It took me a while to get over feeling so sad for all humanity.

I often felt that the psychos are seething with hatred as they are watching on their TV sets the celebrating, dancing masses of little people having fun all around the world:
- "So little sheep.. you feel good? Here! Let us spoil your fun big time and shock you senseless!"

Maybe that's why they plan attacking recreational places, concerts, marathon, restaurants, where people could have had a really good, fun time. How could they allow little sheep coming up with innocent new kinds of mass entertainments, festivals during the decades? Not as long as these psychos live!

I think lilies that a good way to empower yourself from these atrocity's (as there will be more unfortunately), and vent the anger may come in the form of creative instincts.

These are gifts endowed in each incarnation. Some individuals abuse the gifts as others find a beneficial means that serve humanity through the STO pathway of light.

I don't mean to preach, but being from NV. I feel just as angry as many to this deception.

But i have to keep going while looking for balance in an unbalanced density. That's what makes this session (as others) so important.

And that i have gained more knowledge by accepting the truth. Thus promoting vigilance, which equates to more protection.

For myself, and for others that may seek the truth if asked. I will point the way without violation of there freewill.

OK then, good luck with riding The Wave.
 
genero81 said:
Laura said:
I think that Bennett and Collins might have learned a lot that was more sensible if they had lived in the present and had access to good cognitive science.

We already have a reading list along that line, but I want to add two books to it that will REALLY expose our "machine" to our eyes. Adrian Raine's "Psychopathy" and "The Anatomy of Violence". Along the way of talking about what goes wrong, he also describes how it all works in normal brains. Crucial information for everyone. It also exposes how limited the Gurjieffian explanations of things are and gives us much better tools for understanding.

Already started reading Raine's Psychopathy: An Introduction to Biological Findings and Their Implications Written in clear language and easy to read. At least so far.

Added: I've been thinking lately that cognitive science really is of the utmost importance for getting where we want to go, so to speak. FWIW

I have already ordered: The Idea of History, Speculum Mentis, Gurdjieff and Hypnosis (plus Deconstructing Gurdjieff) and finally, Adrian Raine's book on psychopathy.

I think that is 'The List' and listed in the order that has been recommended for reading by Laura. :lkj:
 
Hello Family.

Thanks to all who made this session possible.

"More like dissolution followed by reconstitution" said the C's. Let me share my experience of dissolution and reconstitution.

Dissolution: the undoing or breaking of a bond, tie, union, partnership, etc. or dissolving into parts or elements
Reconstitution: to constitute again; reconstruct; recompose, to return.


I had for seven years and computer accessories business. For a while it was very good, the utilities gave me the opportunity to travel with the family and invite some friends. Then from 2015 my health began to deteriorate, my business began to decline with the consequent economic problems. So in mid-2016 I had to close my business and rent another economic establishment to be able to continue, I was worried about my future. I made changes to improve my health but the new business did not prosper, I was surrounded by disloyal competition, envy, lies and general bad vibes. In fact I felt out of place in that new establishment in a very famous square in Mexico whose tenants keep the motto: "he who does not cheat or steal does not advance." Mexico sinks more in violence against women and children, drug trafficking, corruption of the political class, but more than anything in the lies.

In August 2017 I had to close my business for good, but unlike the other time this time I felt free, in fact, I was full of faith that better things could come. I had a couple of clients and I could continue to give them service from my home located outside Mexico city. I no longer needed the great financial resources to survive but the basics. Being longer in my house allowed me not only to meditate regularly, but to sing and to recite to my crystals any time, also I obtained peace and tranquility, but my dog began to get sick and died.

Then a woman appeared in my life and my brain indicated that with her I could establish a relationship. Yes, I was projecting qualities that she did not have. The relationship involved returning to the previous model of life. Fortunately, the September 19 earthquake happened. She returned with her old boyfriend to continue with her lessons and I returned to feel the peace and tranquility, this time there was no disappointment or depression, I think something had to do with my crystals. Something had definitely happened that day of the earthquake, a different reality as Ark said.

The first earthquake of September 7th mainly affected very poor people living in southeastern Mexico. The second earthquake affected mainly the middle and upper class of Mexico City. Some people from those affluent colonies today are living in tents and shelters, it definitely changed their reality. See: "The main effects of the earthquake of last September 19 are manifested more severely, in the collapse of 38 buildings that are located in 36 blocks of the Metropolitan Area. Of these, 25 are located in areas with a very high index of quality of life, 11 of the high stratum and two more in an average degree, according to a preliminary analysis of the Institute of Economic Research of the National Autonomous University of Mexico (UNAM) ). http://www.dineroenimagen.com/2017-10-06/91664

The government and the political party in power, the PRI, saw with some fear how people organized to help, they definitely DID NOT need them. The government sent the army and pulled the volunteers and rescuers out of the collapsed areas. The PRI "donated" its budget to the reconstruction works. But these monetary resources are NOT obtained by the PRI on their own because they come from the taxes that Mexicans pay, more than anything else it was a return disguised as altruism... BUT some Mexicans believed the lie.

On October 2nd I woke up with a strong feeling: Joy. This time the feeling that something had changed or was changing was very strong. I have been rereading the sessions for a month and I found again the word "Pronoia" that was already discussed on other occasions in the forum: the opposite state of mind in paranoia: to have the sense that there is a conspiracy that exists to help the person ... a philosophy that the world is set up to secretly benefit people.

I believe that the pronoia definitively constitutes the state of reconstitution of the harmony with the Universe.

Yesterday, I started to design a website for a virtual store. As was said in Life is Religion: "Keeping a daily goal in mind can help you not to fall into a state of lack of decision, today is the day, not tomorrow. Practice voluntary austerity periodically. This is aimed at reinforcing the spirit in the face of any future misfortune, creating willpower and trust, as well as helping us to understand that we need less than what we use today. You have a will and you can choose to prepare now for any changes that the future may bring. "

"We suggest you to become a" host "of your own show!" Said the C´s

Thank you for reading.
 
Laura said:
SocietyoftheSpectacle said:
"G" by putting into people's minds an Idea , through Hypnosis
or "FORCED" Identification,
was giving them an Idea that the "Processing of would lead to Understanding the process itself "

Any clearer ?

Have you read Tamdgidi's book and also the Collingwood books?

Still working through both of them.

Is my description of Identification as a form of hynosis wrong ?
 
Thank you everyone for this session!

Leonel said:
Mexico sinks more in violence against women and children, drug trafficking, corruption of the political class, but more than anything in the lies.

This is something that I've been wondering for the past month or so. Mexico's violence is really going crazy, I know it's also like this in other parts of the world. But it makes me wonder what is going on with the violence against women in the country. Looking at the media lately, if I'm not mistaken it's like every week or so, there's a body of a girl missing and then found dead. The most recent events I can think of now where two young adults murdered by their boyfriends.. :huh: And of course the guys are "nowhere" to be seen..

Also the upcoming elections makes me wonder what's going to happen.. The candidate of the "left" party seems to be leading the polls now, BUT I really don't trust the guy since he was part of PRI (the party now in power) at some point. And rumors said that MORENA (the party he belongs to) was created by Salinas de Gortari, a president who belong to PRI and didn't do a any good things to the country. I truly think things are going to get kinda crazy around here when the elections come, and I'm quite sure PRI will "win" again. Anywho we will see what happens around here.

All in all, it is quite clear that everywhere there's something going on and we shall all keep our eyes more open than ever.

As for the discussion on riclapaz's behaviour. I honestly don't have anything more to add, I truly agree with everyone and the input given was really right spot on.

So thanks again guys and everyone here stay safe! :hug2:
 
SocietyoftheSpectacle said:
Laura said:
SocietyoftheSpectacle said:
"G" by putting into people's minds an Idea , through Hypnosis
or "FORCED" Identification,
was giving them an Idea that the "Processing of would lead to Understanding the process itself "

Any clearer ?

Have you read Tamdgidi's book and also the Collingwood books?

Still working through both of them.

Is my description of Identification as a form of hynosis wrong ?

Yes and no. It is and it isn't. I really want everyone to read these books so as to have tools for real self-observation and self-understanding, better cosmological understanding including our place within it, and a better understanding of Gurdjieff so we can more effectively cut through the nonsense and build on the good parts. This short reading program is likely to be a "shock" in itself and can be a turning point in comprehension.
 
Marina9 said:
Thank you everyone for this session!

Leonel said:
Mexico sinks more in violence against women and children, drug trafficking, corruption of the political class, but more than anything in the lies.

Also the upcoming elections makes me wonder what's going to happen.. The candidate of the "left" party seems to be leading the polls now, BUT I really don't trust the guy since he was part of PRI (the party now in power) at some point. And rumors said that MORENA (the party he belongs to) was created by Salinas de Gortari, a president who belong to PRI and didn't do a any good things to the country. I truly think things are going to get kinda crazy around here when the elections come, and I'm quite sure PRI will "win" again. Anywho we will see what happens around here.

This is going to be crazy without doubt. Now Mexican Presidential election has three or four aspirants from Official Parties and 40 independent candidates for the Presidency in 2018!!! So could have 45 aspirants :scared:

http://www.animalpolitico.com/2017/10/ciudadanos-ine-candidatos-independientes-2018/

Is not this dissolution?
 
Thank you for so informative session.
J was struggling with G's books,J noticed his big ego and not admirer of his work.
About chaos,it is so visible,people are extremely nervous,on the very edge.What is very worrying,children very young of 12 to 16 behaves as mad,carrying weapons and using it,wishing to kill anyone opposed to them.Forces of chaos are preparing young forces
 
It is what i feel it is "a turning point" with the set of books homework, and this session of "crystallisation of" Gurdjieff.
Thanks y' all a lot for the sharing of your ideas and works.
 
Thanks for the information rich session.

(Joe) Why did they do it? Is this just one more, "Remind the people why they need us"?

A: Chaos.

Q: (Joe) They kinda seem to have left a lot of things... loose threads here. Is this...?

A: Chaos affects them too!

Q: (Joe) Psychos gone wild.

'They' probably feel an intense hunger and desperation now. Some of the people who are involved - on all levels, must have some really horrible spiritual attachments to STS to drive them so - or just psychopathic... Gaslighting and terrorizing the public must be something of a sport to them. Getting people to believe lies that are more and more outrageous and seeing how far they can go. Seems some people are willing to believe the official version of events in the media no matter what. Personalities in the media and much of the population are evidently missing some critical faculty that would cause them to question authority and/or critically evaluate what they report or hear and see from reporters, dividing of the sheep and goats.
 
Great session. Thank you. Enlightening facts about G and his reaction once he passed over are priceless. I was surprised at the number involved in the Vegas shooting. I was also curious if Paddock was the actual shooter and that was answered.

With all of the crazy weather related events, I wonder about what's coming up. The prediction of the large Ca earthquake has not happened, but it seems like other parts of the planet are blowing up. In fact, I'm keeping my eye on Yellowstone considering how the ring of fire has been super active.

Thanks for the great reading recommendations. It helps to read and focus on the material in the midst of all this insanity.
 

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