What have you done to contribute to the forum? Can you please explain how you’re living up to the standard you’re expecting of others? What steps have you taken to improve the rate of “progress” here? Also, what do you know about the inner workings of the Fellowship to be able to make any statements about how that whole project is going? I’m glad you think it’s doing little better overall. Given your position in the Fellowship, you must have the inside scoop.@forest_light
your post helped a lot, because it serves as a perfect example of what I was talking about when I was talking about dispersion of knowledge. I was talking about a simple fact that many people can be helped easily by investing more effort when writing a message and making a post. If I compare your post to some other posts in this thread there is huge difference. The difference is that you put a lot of effort into writing it and it shows. It is written intelligibly and I can clearly understand every point you make. Also it shows some serious problem that is widespread on this forum and the entirety of group.
I will make an analogy that helping others is like building a house so that everyone understands. And I am talking only about helping others to progress because that is what is really important.
In my post I basically said to build a house right? I didn't say "lets try to build a house", i said to actually do it. Do you see the difference?
You said that it is considered STS to build a house if no one asked for it right? Asked whom? Directly you?
What if someone already asked me to build a house and I made a post where I am asking for help. If you help me build the house yet that someone did not asked specifically you does that make you STS?
What if you overheard someone asking for help someone else on the street, yet not specifically you. Would you offer your help or would you pretend that you didn't hear anything? Of course here it is true that forcing your help onto someone is not nice. But you can make yourself available and it is the person's choice whether he chooses you or not.
What if you build a house even though no one asked for it, yet someone will ask exactly for that house in one year. Does that make you STS?
It might be shocking to, well, clearly everyone on this forum, but every person who ever needed help already asked someone for help.
Excuse of everyone on this forum is basically such, that if someone doesn't ask specifically them, then they will not help.
Do you know why this is? Because they don't know how to do it. Literally they need that someone to tell them exactly what to do and only that is considered help or STO on this forum.
But surprisingly, sometimes doing exactly the opposite is actually helpful.
What does this mean? That we here in this world cannot know what the other soul really needs in order to progress. We don't know the sum of her experiences and therefore we cannot know what is the right thing to do. We are limited by our awareness. But we can always give someone opportunity to learn. She doesn't need to ask you but the opportunity can be there. At first she might not even see it, some time might pass, but if the opportunity is still present, she might one day recognize this opportunity for what it is and learns something and makes a progress.
We can have look at how the universe does it. If you ask the universe for help what do you get? Does the universe make the progress for you or does it just offer an opportunity for you to make a progress?
And who really is the universe? Are we all not part of the universe?
I understand that you cannot help others if you don't know how to do it and also you can hurt others if you don't know what you are doing but how are you then going to learn it? Do you understand what STO means? It means to help others. Not "trying to help others", but actually helping them. But here the mentality is such, that it is better to do nothing because if you try to do something you might make a mistake.
How do you all want to progress? You are not utilizing your knowledge, you are even afraid to use it.
Well the situation here is even worse because there is even lack of basic understanding so many members don't even have anything to use and are completely discombobulated. Or have absolutely no idea what it means to make an effort. Parroting after others and memorizing text is not knowledge.
I feel that most of you think that wanting to do something is STS. If you don't even want to help others then how are you going to help them? You have to first decide that you want to do something to actually do it don't you? And then you have to make some effort.
But here the mentality is such that well if it is meant to be then it will happen on its own, right? No! Nothing happens without some effort and no one is going to do this for you. The universe helps those who actually do something and make effort. And reading books is not considered effort. Or can you build a house only by reading about it?
The situation here is very bad. The progress that was made in one year is approximately one inch. Yes 1 inch. Compare this to a snails pace and even blind can see that something is wrong. This thread is full of selfish posts or posts that are not important because they have almost zero potential to help others. This thread just makes me sad.
It really would help if someone who is one step in front of you could teach you at least the basics, maybe some teacher.
And if someone says "but you cannot force anyone to learn", that is true but you can give them opportunity. You can create the best possible conditions so that the progress is maximized. Like there can be group which clearly already exists that would help those who are part of the group. Or why are you all here?
@Laura I will be honest. I am mad. But do you know what really breaks my heart? Seeing you and the souls that are part of the soul set doing everything they can do to help but there is no visible progress. The fellowship group is doing a little better, there are some individuals that are doing just fine but the progress is not uniform and is very slow. This whole situation reminds me of a clock that I had long time ago. It had massive pendulum and on the first sight everything was working - the pendulum was swinging, the clock made ticking sounds, but there was a problem noticeable only when one was actually observing the clock for longer period. The hands wouldn't move! They just jumped randomly around one spot which can hardly be called progress. One day I decided that i will look inside the clock and repair it. Inside, there was large number of gears meshing perfectly together but there was one little gear that was not working properly. It was worn out and even though initially the clock worked, now the little gear was not properly meshing with other gears. It was deformed and it didn't do its job anymore. I had to make similar gear from scratch as that gear was unique for that clock and could not be bought anywhere. At first the new gear was too snug but after some time the gears meshed perfectly with no play and the clock worked just fine.
What i am trying to say is that the set of the souls are like the gears and if they are not complete then they can make whatever effort but the results will not be optimal. I think you are missing a soul in your group. I cannot know that of course but that is the only explanation I have for this. I think that souls are usually in pairs. So what i feel would help is if you would just ask the souls whether they think there might be someone special just for them who they are missing. You know like Ark is for you. And if only one of the souls says "Yes I am sure that there must be someone who will complete me and who would make me feel loved", then well, you can at least be sure that you as a group are not complete and there is someone missing.
I think that if there is such someone, then he has been looking for the soul his entire life already and this means that he might be close so as to make himself available. The soul only needs to recognize him in order to let him pass. This is so because you created such defenses that you are protecting yourself not only from any harm from the outside, but also from any help from the outside. This means that if the soul will not recognize him, they will never meet.
Well,that of course means that the mission will fail because we are talking about balanced set of souls and the load across them is evenly distributed like in a truss structure. If only one truss breaks then the entire structure fails.
So to sum everything up, if there are souls that are complementary, they will try to unite in this world. It is his responsibility, who is outside, to find her, who is inside. But it is her responsibility to recognize him. I assume that he made substantial effort so that he is at the gates. Now it is time for her to make some effort. If she does nothing, nothing happens. And also it is important to realize that the decision is only for the soul to make. This is not a group decision! I am sure the universe gave her some gifts so she can do that. She will know. Also at first he might not recognize her but she can help him to remember.
I am pretty sure there must be someone. Just like I made the gear, the one infinite creator must have created him.
Sorry if i was too direct, but i just can't stay quiet anymore, I just can't. I really wish for you to succeed, I wish for you to be happy. And when I close my eyes and look into the future, I wish to see you there with a big smile on your face. I feel that once the group is complete, everything will be just fine.
I can’t comment on your statements about finding a soul partner - I don’t understand why that’s something that should be made a priority in and of itself, over everything else that requires attention, and simply because these things tend to happen when the time is right and the person is in a position to both receive and offer value to another.
I guess I just don’t understand what your frustration is. Is it with the mods and admins? The members? Human nature overall? What is to blame for your perceived lack of progress? How do you personally measure it? What qualifies you to do so? What are your proposed solutions? If it’s for everyone to try to find a soul partner, which is kinda what I gathered, I’m not sure I agree.