First of all, I think, the C's have been very kind with allowing us optimism, aspiration, confidence regards the future..When the C’s say that a person can be in 4D and not be aware of it, it seems like a contradiction to me, since one’s density level is dependent on one’s level of awareness
Think about the thinning of Realm Border at specific places. But especially emphasized, when we truly "cross-over" into 4thD. I mean like 30-65% of our 3rdD reality gradually slides / changes into soft 4thD Zones.Triangle Molebsky, the Perm Anomalous Zone, or simply the M-zone, and has become a hotspot for all manner of high strangeness.
This is from Wikipedia:I always assumed that after Earth will graduate to the 4th density there will still be souls inhabiting it's 3d density Earth plane so to say, therefore for those souls the awareness of the 4d Earth will be fairly limited or non existent. A different story for a 4d candidate transitioning to the 4d Earth plane. I guess that's what I was trying to imply in my previous comment. Off course these are all speculations.
The idea I always came back to was that 4D is unlikely to be radically different from 3D because it would be too much for 3D denizens to adjust to all at once, and I trust that the universe is more careful and caring than that. In addition, we go where we "fit", and right now any prospective "4D candidates" are mostly 3D. If they are "going to 4D", then for purely practical reasons, 4D is gonna have to be somewhere relatively familiar to those people, although not completely.
Great thoughts.Funny, but I was thinking something along these lines recently. I was coming at it from the point of view of whether there might be different countries and was thinking we have often focused on how different 4D must be, but actually, what might the similarities be.
Early in the sessions, Laura and many other people near where she used to live had an experience where they were woken up in the middle of the night by some sort of loud bang that didn’t seem like a usual sound wave type bang. There was some related high-strangeness involved as well. When Laura asked the C’s about it, the C’s said they had been completely in 4th density for something like 1.4 seconds.
I think there might be many different possibilities for how one might find themselves in 4D. Maybe during some types of meditative states.
For many years now, I have contemplated the future chaos and destruction to come, as I’m sure most others here on the forum have. But there was something about this question that really hit me hard. I guess I’ve always thought that the chances of me dying in what’s to come are pretty certain, and that I spent my time meditating on being okay with that.
But the thought of surviving? In that case, I would have had to witness the deaths of almost everyone else in the planet. And there seems to be a subtle difference for me in that.
‘We’re all going to be killed’? Okay, then we’re all in this together. And let’s try to alleviate the panic of it by understanding that we’re more than our physical bodies.
But, “everyone else is going to be killed”; that hits different. I haven’t quite processed this yet, can’t quite put my finger on what feeling it’s triggering in me. It’s not like I didn’t know it was coming.
The human mind is a strange device.
Joe said:Andrian said:About the 3d sto candidate perceiving the 4d environment basically the same way it perceives the 3d environment it makes sense since the key aspect here is the individual's level of being and awareness, me thinks. Him being a 3d sto candidate will experience the reality in which he finds himself in according to his level of awareness therefore even if the planet will "upgrade" to a higher density for the 3d sto candidate it won't make too much difference. I assume it would be a whole different story for a 4d sto candidate in relation to his awareness of the 4d environment.
That is, me thinks that probably if the question has been asked differently, something like the following, how will perceive a 4d environment a 3d sto candidate and a 4d sto candidate, we'll have received a different answer from the C's. But that's my speculations.
The only difference here, I think, is whether or no a person post transition has the knowledge about what is happening. And that can make a fairly big difference I suppose.
Just wondering about what you suggested here Joe... from memory, I think the C's said that those who go to 4D will have 100,000 years to finally decide between STO and STS orientation, so maybe that period of adjustment so to speak also includes a slow movement from shall we say 3D redux to out and out 4D? In other words, as your awareness level in 4D becomes more suitable and adapted for 4D then your environment and you become more inter-compatible... something like that. FWIW.
Pretty sure it was described as a 1000 year period, although that was as a 3D time reference, where time is different in 4D. I should really look it up to get the exact quote.
There’s the quote, it was from a session that was Frank direct channeling.Now, as you advance to the fourth level of density which is coming up for you, you must now make a choice as to whether to progress to service to others or to remain at the level of service to self. This will be the decision which will take quite some time for you to adjust to. This is what is referred to as the "thousand year period." This is the period as measured in your calendar terms that will determine whether or not you will advance to service to others or remain at the level of service to self.
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I understand how painful it is to remember all the suffering through ignorance throughout history - all the lost opportunities. I remember something my grandpa said a long time ago. He said that each generation was getting weaker, and he looked at me and said I was the weakest generation ever, and laughed. I didn't like the comment at the time. But look at where we are now with the current generation believing sex can be changed just by wishing it so. But we have all been trained to relax and enjoy the bread and circuses of modern life as a 'consumer' - increasingly after the 1950s. So we are due some suffering it seems - weak men make hard times.The only thing that really saddens me is when the SCs say that humanity has not suffered enough (I'm summarising) ....
Now I'm getting angry !!!! I understand what the Cs mean but I think that's enough.
Humanity has been suffering for thousands of years. What percentage of suffering is still needed to stop all this cinema, this infamous illusion...
And I'm not speaking for myself: I know I'm privileged, in this life.
This reminded me of a website I discovered a long time ago:First, I believe that there is another world just waiting for us to experience. And I expect that there will be a way to connect without the internet. But I have to fall back to reality and what are we supposed to do about [fill in the blank]. There is the real side of being part of the small percentage that survives. I’ve been writing about it in many of my postings but you do not have to go to such extremes. You might just make a list of the ‘fill in the blank items’ and resolutions to any variable of the item. Here are some of them.
Bodies of the deceased. What do you do with so many bodies. First you clean-up an area for you to survive in. You will need to use current fuel supplies to make this happen at any sizable scale. You can dig mass graves, and you will fill them. Eventually the fuel will run out or worse it will go bad in a very short time. Then you are left with piling them up, but there are literally mountains of them. You will come to the conclusion that you cannot deal with them anymore. The best resolution I can come up with is to let nature take its course, yes that’s allowing a pestilence to clean up the bodies for you. You will have to open residences to allow the pestilence to come in. In some locations, this may take years to complete. Heck, it may take years just to open the residences.
Water without it you die in a short few days. Faucets run for a short time but they will run dry, what do you do now. One of the items I wrote about is draining the hot water tank, if you have a tanked version. Low points of water lines can be extracted and a hole drilled to access the draining of water in the pipes. Just remember if either of these items are done have an ample amount of containers to catch the precious fluids. When that runs out you need to find alternate sources.
Large water supplies have a good chance at being contaminated, a single dead body can contaminate millions of gallons of water. The larger the body of water the bigger chance of it being contaminated. You need to find smaller sources, springs to me would be the best source as the contamination level should be minimized. Small creeks and streams are next but worry about the contamination level still. Inspect upstream to make sure that a deer, or something else, has not died in the water you want to drink, inspect regularly. Wells should be good, but you will have to figure out how to get the water up to the surface, solar pumps, bucket on the end of a rope?
What I am saying is that you need to think about these now so when the need comes, you have a plan. Look around now for water sources, tanks of fuel that you can use for the cleanup. Whatever you have on your ‘fill in the blanks’ list, look around now to find ways to deal with it, later people will be running around with their heads unscrewed trying to deal with these kind of issues.
Making a positive out of a disaster will be critical to everyone’s existence in this time. Faith, understanding and knowledge will be your only toolkits, use them well. Now off my apocalyptic box.
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