The OP and group soul’s question:
The C’s answer is as clear as mud to me. Can anyone help with understanding their answer?
I asked the question because it was already asked here on the forum, and I had been thinking about it. The answer from the Cs, to me, was that the "pool" that OPs go back and forth between is essentially a group soul "pool" made of "soul stuff" like all other soul groups.
All such "soul stuff"/groups has always existed, and they simply forms themselves into different groups based on the combined K&B of the soul group/stuff. Through individuated lifetimes, the group soul grows in K&B and can, at a certain point, differentiate or "split off" into smaller groups and even individuals, while always maintaining the connection to the originating group.
So basically, when we talk about "OPs" and "souled individuals", we're really talking about two different soul groups at different levels of K&B/development.
Funny, but I was thinking something along these lines recently. I was coming at it from the point of view of whether there might be different countries and was thinking we have often focused on how different 4D must be, but actually, what might the similarities be.
I've subtly (mostly) been pushing (on the forum here) the idea that 4D might not be that different to 3D for quite a while now. I finally got cheeky enough to ask a direct(ish) question about it - just slip it in there and move on quickly before anyone notices, or I get a "no dice! or wait and see!"
The idea I always came back to was that 4D is unlikely to be radically different from 3D because it would be too much for 3D denizens to adjust to all at once, and I trust that the universe is more careful and caring than that. In addition, we go where we "fit", and right now any prospective "4D candidates" are mostly 3D. If they are "going to 4D", then for purely practical reasons, 4D is gonna have to be somewhere relatively familiar to those people, although not completely.
As for 4D, it was interesting the Cs said there would be 3D infrastructure semi/sort of. That's fine, I can deal with semi/sort of, but what else is there in 4D? We might assume that it is fully populated with people who have been there for a long time. In that case, it would have its own history etc. So lots to get acquainted with. I'm reminded of a comment the Cs once made when Laura asked about 4D and they said something like 'imagine a situation where, one day, you wake up and everything that is,
was and will be, is new'.
But, “everyone else is going to be killed”; that hits different. I haven’t quite processed this yet, can’t quite put my finger on what feeling it’s triggering in me. It’s not like I didn’t know it was coming.
Yeah, I'd say that depending on whether or not you have a reason for living, a perceived mission, in this life, a lot of people might think that checking out is the preferable option to living through such a thing.
This is somewhat confusing as I am assuming if the secret government is not human - it refers to 4DSTS, and why wouldn't they want to stop the Russians from foiling their plans? Also, with Russia contained, it would seem STS forces would have unlimited ability to foment more torment on humanity. Unless the secret government contains elements of STO as well, or ???
Secret govt. is, we're told, a bit of both, probably with the 4D dudes holding sway. Russia isn't foiling their plans, just the plans of the numbskulls in the State Dept. and CIA. There's a reason the Cs called 2014 (the Ukraine coup) "year zero". That was the year where the events of that year set the scene for what we are seeing today, and what is to come.
Essentially, unbeknownst to the deep state nuts in the US, the Ukraine conflict is a major part of the human-led process of destroying modern life as we know it. What's not to love about that if you're a wishful thinking croco-brain? And they have the existence and nature of the Russian people and Putin to thank for it! Or so they think.
That’s a sobering thought, I had sort of decided that due to my age, that I wouldn’t be around, b/c how on earth would I be of any help? Unless, having known what was coming, and being less surprised at all the things that clueless people will have to come to grips with in the very near future: unfriendly aliens, “Why hasn’t Jesus saved us?”, ACKK..my government could not be THAT evil???…etc, etc. etc. Maybe being around to explain a few things in as calm a manner as possible under those circumstances will be more useful than I think now.
I think I said at one of last year's FOTCM meetings that the "simple" fact of having the awareness of the Cs cosmology is likely the most important part of our collective participation here. And why did the Cs and Laura go through all the blood sweat and tears of making that cosmology known to those attracted to it, if it wasn't going to be important in the future?
When the C’s say that a person can be in 4D and not be aware of it, it seems like a contradiction to me, since one’s density level is dependent on one’s level of awareness.
But awareness of what? If to move to 4D you have to be aware of 4D, then the harvest is gonna be pretty small and mostly gathered from the forum here! So I think that density level being based on awareness level is perhaps not exactly the case. Also, maybe that idea referred to people in specific densities, i.e. people in 3D are there because that is their level of awareness, likewise 4D. But how do people transition from one to the other?
Think of an interview for a new (or first) job. It's often not the case that you know the job before being selected for it. Instead, it's often the case that the person interviewing you selects you for that job because they believe you have the potential to reach that level of expertise in/awareness of, the job.
It raises the question, if one can be in 4D and not be aware of it, then does one continue to perceive things as if they’re in 3D, when they are in fact not? (Which would pretty much be the same as just still being in 3D, if you think about it).
Maybe, although as Scottie (I think) (quoting the Cs) said in this thread already, in "4D wishful thinking becomes your reality", but there is still an *actual* reality going on, despite any obtuseness. The same would probably apply for someone newly arrived in 4D who was a bit lost.
Such a person would probably have problems navigating with that kind of a wrong assumption, similar, perhaps, to the person who has recently died in 3D and gets "stuck" here and is not aware that they are actually dead.
The solution (I hope) in both situations is for someone, perhaps a more aware, but equally new, arrival, to sidle up to such a person and say, "dude, you're dead, let me explain things" or "dude, you're not in 3D anymore, let me explain things."