(seek10) The C's said that 50k years back, there was a war between Kantekkians and the Paranthas. Does the Rama play into that picture? Was it before or after the war?
A: After.
Q: (Ursus Minor) When did the Atlanteans start building pyramids on Mars?
A: Also about 50k years ago.
Ursus Minor, thank you so much for asking this question. I have always had a fascination for the Red Planet. Back in the day, I used to take a great interest in Martian anomalies, particularly those found at Cydonia, which includes the famous
Face on Mars. Indeed, it was finding the C's confirmation that the Atlanteans had built it that first brought me to the Cassiopaean Site.
One of the best sites for in-depth reports on the Martian anomalies was that of the late
Joseph Skipper, whose website has been preserved fortunately for those who want to check out his voluminous reports - see:
Life on Mars annihilated by nuclear event - Dr Brandenburg. Skipper was often able to get underneath the masking or obfuscation techniques used by NASA and the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) to discover what was really there. These reports and those of other Martian anomaly hunters made me realise that Mars once had a thriving civilisation with numerous large cities located in several regions. Once as a bit of fun at Christmas time, I showed a NASA picture of what was evidently a wrecked airport (or possibly a space port), with aircraft still on runways, and asked my work colleagues to guess where it was. Understandably, no one got the correct answer but when I told them it was actually Mars, they just wouldn't believe it, even though this was an official NASA image with photo identification marks and dates and time of capture. You may well ask why NASA doesn't comment on such images. They don't. They just put them out there and, if they ever do comment, they come out with some silly geological explanation for the anomaly, which can't possibly hold up to close scrutiny.
Although I could post lots of interesting pictures from the surface of Mars, there is one in particular I would like to share with you since it provides positive evidence that humans (or humanoids) were once present on Mars and supports the C's claim:
I think you will agree with me that it is hard to pass this image off as a mere rock.
I had no idea though how far back the Atlantean civilisation on Mars extended. The answer above came as a bit of a shock. Note the C's say this was when the Atlanteans started building pyramids on Mars, so they could have been occupying Mars long before this. If the Atlanteans could build such sophisticated power generators as the pyramids on Mars (and they built lots of them) 50,000 years ago, this gave them nearly 40,000 years to advance before the Deluge completely destroyed the Atlantean civilisation and plunged mankind into the Stone Age. We know from the C's that the Atlanteans were an advanced spacefaring civilisation for they told us that a journey from Earth to Mars was as easy for them as a short haul internal flight in the United States is today for us. Indeed, the C's described our present technology compared to that of the Atlanteans as the difference between our technology and that of the Neanderthals to emphasise the gap. Technology tends to advance at a rapid rate once established (just think of computers and modern aircraft), so if the Atlanteans had nearly 40,000 years after they erected the pyramids on Mars before their destruction, how far could they have advanced in that time? Were they just a civilisation confined to this Solar System or did they become an interstellar race as depicted in Star Trek and its fictional Federation with 'faster then light' spaceflight capabilities? Without going into detail, there is tantalising evidence for ancient archaeology on other worlds in our Solar System, including Saturn's moon Titan, Jupiter's moon Ganymede, Ceres the dwarf planet in the Asteroid Belt (but possibly a former moon of Kantek) and even Pluto. Now these structures could be alien in nature since the C's have told us that the Greys are currently present on the Moon and Mars, but they could also be remnants of former Atlantean colonies on these worlds.
Even if the Atlanteans never developed faster than light space capabilities (although I imagine they did), could they still have established colonies beyond the Solar System? Well, the C's have hinted that this might be possible in this excerpt from the transcripts:
Session 9 August 1997:
A: No. Here is something for you to digest: Why is it that your scientists have overlooked the obvious when they insist that alien beings cannot travel to earth from a distant system???
Q: And what is this obvious thing?
A: Even if speed of light travel, or "faster," were not possible, and it is, of course, there is no reason why an alien race could not construct a space "ark," living for many generations on it. They could travel great distances through time and space, looking for a suitable world for conquest. Upon finding such, they could then install this ark in a distant orbit, build bases upon various solid planes in that solar system, and proceed to patiently manipulate the chosen civilizations to develop a suitable technological infrastructure. And then, after the instituting of a long, slow, and grand mind programming project, simply step in and take it over once the situation was suitable.
Q: Is this, in fact, what has happened, or is happening?
A: It could well be, and maybe now it is the time for you to learn about the details.
Q: Well, would such a race be 3rd or 4th density in orientation?
A: Why not elements of both?
Q: What is the most likely place that such a race would have originated from?
A: Oh, maybe Orion, for example?
Q: Okay. If such a race did, in fact, travel to this location in space/time, how many generations have come and gone on their space ark during this period of travel, assuming, of course, that such a thing has happened?
A: Maybe 12.
Q: Okay, that implies that they have rather extended life spans...
A: Yes...
Q: Assuming this to be the case, what are their life spans?
A: 2,000 of your years.
Q: Okay, assuming such a bunch have travelled...
A: When in space, that is...
Q: And what is the span when on terra firma?
A: 800 years.
Q: Well, has it not occurred to them that staying in space might not be better?
A: No. Planets are much more "comfortable."
Q: Okay... imagining that such a group has travelled here...
A: We told you of upcoming conflicts... Maybe we meant the same as your Bible, and other references. Speak of... The "final" battle between "good and evil..." Sounds a bit cosmic, when you think of it, does it not?
Q: Does this mean that there is more than one group that has travelled here in their space arks?
A: Could well be another approaching, as well as "reinforcements" for either/or, as well as non-involved, but interested observers of various types who appreciate history from the sidelines.
Although the C's are talking here about the Orions, there is no reason why the Atlanteans could not have done the same thing with their technological capabilities. Note that the Orion's ark could have been in transit for up to 24,000 years. Note also in the Bible, it speaks of the former longevity of the pre-Flood people; Noah (who the C's said was an Atlantean) was meant to have been 600 and Methuselah the biblical patriarch mentioned in Genesis 5:21–27 was meant to have lived to 969, but that was on Earth and not in Space. If the Atlanteans did colonise other worlds beyond this solar system, could they have colonised planets in the Orion system? Did they in fact become the Orions and establish the Orion Federation? Note in the last answer of that excerpt from the transcripts the C's mention interested observers of various types who appreciate history from the side lines. This suggest time travellers or why else would it be history for them. It is a fact that travelling at or faster than the speed of light automatically involves time travelling. Indeed, you don't have to travel at the speed of light to achieve this in relativistic terms since 'time dilation' will operate even at speeds lower than that of light. Quoting from the article
A beginner's guide to time travel (see:
A beginner's guide to time travel):
Travelling at high speed isn't the only way to produce time dilation. Einstein showed that gravitational fields produce a similar effect — even the relatively weak field here on the surface of Earth. We don't notice it, because we spend all our lives here, but more than 12,400 miles (20,000 kilometers) higher up gravity is measurably weaker — and time passes more quickly, by about 45 microseconds per day."
And we know from the C's that a group of aliens are riding the Wave to get here, if they haven't already. Does the Pentagon know something that we don't about this (see:
https://www.livescience.com/alien-m...with-tiny-probes-pentagon-official-suggests)?
Returning to Mars, the Red Planet was often linked to war by the ancients. Ares was a god of war to the Greeks and Mars, his Roman equivalent, was the god of war to the Romans. However, was this attachment of Mars to war an inherited memory from ages past? A Nasa scientist,
Dr John Brandenburg, discovered some years ago evidence for a nuclear war on Mars. This involved two sites on Mars where for him nuclear explosions seem to have occurred. At first he sought a natural explanation for these explosions. However, he was persuaded by colleagues that this could not have been the case since certain rare isotopes discovered in the Martian atmosphere can only be produced by the detonation of nuclear weapons. He subsequently wrote about this in a book called
Death on Mars. Another Forum member, Sol Logos, opened a useful thread on this subject in 2016 titled
Life on Mars annihilated by nuclear event - Dr Brandenburg (see:
Life on Mars annihilated by nuclear event - Dr Brandenburg) for those who want to read more.
If there was a war on Mars between Atlantean factions, who was it between and did this war spread beyond Mars? Could it have been the same war that involved the Kantekkians and the Paranthas, mentioned earlier in the session by
Seek10?
(seek10) The C's said that 50k years back, there was a war between Kantekkians and the Paranthas. Does the Rama play into that picture? Was it before or after the war?
A: After.
If so, could this war, involving the use of weapons of mass destruction, have become the basis of the war described in Vedic epics such as the Ramayana and the Mahabharata (as told from the Paranthas' perspective) and the war in Greek mythology between the Olympians and the Titans (as told from a Kantekkian perspective)? If that is the case, who won it?
. I want to observe the grand show, which is a challenge sure but it’s also a gift, an amazing learning experience. This “desire” to stay alive so I can learn and experience is STS, then oh well. 
