In this post, there are excerpts mostly relating to the alphabet and early writing. Near the end, the topic changes to the origin of the Dravidian languages, spoken in the southern parts of the Indian subcontinent.
A follow-up on the Etruscans
The Wiki on the
Etruscan alphabet claims it was used between 700 BC and 100 AD, and traces the origin to an archaic Greek alphabet,
Euboean.
There was a question about the Etruscan alphabet, which excludes one possibility and gives another mystery.
Session 16 August 1997
Q: Ark suggested that the Etruscans may have gotten their alphabet as a mirror image. Could it be that they lived on the 'other side' of the mirror?
A: Latter is closer.
If the latter, "they lived on the 'other side' of the mirror" is closer, what would make it even closer still? Could it be that the Etruscans were on this side, but communicated or received messages as can be done by some mediums in the practice of
scrying, or through a
psychomanteum? If the Etruscans had connections with sources on the other side of the mirror, that is other realms and densities, it could be themselves in the future, or their ancestors. In a sense, this would give Etruscans on both sides. When scrying, instead of a mirror, a shiny surface or the flames of a fire may also work, just as in
syphomancy, where just a cup is used. From this perspective, "on the 'other side' of the mirror", may be close in the sense that the object was not a mirror but some other tool.
The shepherd and the grower of crops
In The Secret History of the World, Laura writes in chapter three, :
Farmers vs. Shepherds. Cain and Abel. As I was reading through all the myths, I was struck by this conflict and also how an older “shepherd” myth was often transformed into an “agriculture” myth with concomitant reversal of imagery and meaning. I asked the Cassiopaeans - myself in the future - about this:
Q: One thing I do want to understand, since it is involved in all of this, is the idea of the ‘Shepherd’. All of the ancient legends and stories and myths lead, ultimately, to something about the ‘shepherd’, or the ‘Shepherd King’.
A: Shepherd is most likely to be struck by lightning, due to staff, and thus “enlightened”, or “illumened”!!
Q: Funny spelling! But, what is the contrast between the concept of the shepherd and the agriculturalist? This goes back to the very roots of everything — there is Cain and Abel, Jacob and Esau, Isaac and Ishmael... and others that are even older from other cultures....
A: Are not you “abel” to figure this out? Have you not learned to explore your ideas without prejudice?
Indeed, this is one of the great keys to tracking the Grail.
This transition from “hunter-gatherer” to “agriculturalist” is considered to be one of the great “revolutions” or evolutionary steps of mankind. But is it necessarily so? Richard Rudgley noted in passing:
The study of the sample of skeletal remains from South Asia showed that there was a decline in body stature, body size and life expectancy with the adoption of farming. ...Of the 13 studies, 10 showed that the average life expectancy declined with the adoption of farming. 41
Notes:
1) Illumened is mostly spelled illumined, but
Lumen is a unit of light. While enlightened carries the meaning of gaining knowledge, with illumened added, using that spelling, there is no encouragement to buy a lightning rod and compete for a Darwin award. Given this interpretation, the process is safer when it is natural, rather than forced, and one has to be aware to avoid risks.
2) Are not you "abel" to figure this out? The name Abel and the word able, are pronounced similarly but with different meanings. Since Abel was a shepherd, there is also the idea that he was more likely to have been struck by lightning than his brother, thus more able.
The Wiki for
Abel has:
Abel is a biblical first name which may derive from the Hebrew
Hebel, itself derived from
hevel (
breath or
vapour),
[1][2] or from the Assyrian for
son.[3]
The Wiki for
Cain has:
Some modern scholars view the Cain and Abel narrative as a symbolic, etiological tale[2] to explain how agriculture replaced foraging[3] using name puns (Abel’s name is related to a word for “
herder” and Cain’s to a word for “metalsmith”).[4] Scholars date the story to between the 9th century BCE[5] and first decades of the 4th century BCE,[6]
If the story is from between the 9th century BCE and the early 4th century, this would place the story in the
Iron Age.
The excerpt quoted from Secret History is from
Session 21 June 1997 where Laura in the original, after, 'Are not you "abel" to figure this out?' and before "Have you not learned to explore your ideas without prejudice?" interjects, and this is relevant for the discussion of the alphabet and writing:
Q: Well, I have some ideas about it, but some of them seem so bizarre! For example: the first letter of the Greek alphabet is alpha, which has the 'a' sound, and the first letter of the Elder Futhark is a rune with an 'f' sound. However, they both claim to represent 'cattle,' or 'movable' goods...
Considering "
they both claim to represent 'cattle,' or 'movable' goods..." this could indicate that the alphabet was initially in use in a society of pastoralists, agro-pastoralists, and traders.
Keeping written records can be more challenging when living a nomadic lifestyle, moving all the time with only a few belongings, but is it also so that a more agriculture-based lifestyle made writing more necessary?
The mindset of the purpose of the agrarian diet is related.
Session 13 January 2024
(gottathink) Dentist Weston Price has documented the drastic change in jaw structure following the introduction of agrarian diets to groups of peoples. Is this one of the causes of the DNA damage causing truncated fluid flow?
(L) Well, that's based on the question which we've already rejected. So I guess in a sense that question is unaskable as it's written... But the question is still valid: Does the introduction of agrarian diets help perpetuate this condition or this truncation, this genetic deficiency or lack of upregulation of the genes that allow for this?
A: Yes
Q: (L) So agrarian diets are wholly responsible?
A: No
Q: (L) Partly responsible?
A: Yes. The mindset of the purpose of the agrarian diet is related.
Q: (Joe) Lack. A lack of an abundance mindset.
(L) Yeah. Yeah, they've gotta hoard things. They've gotta grow more and hoard it, store grain, all that sort of thing.
(Niall) Invent money then.
(Joe) Then the mindset of scarcity...
(L) Yeah. Okay, so that's essentially kind of an STS perspective on the Earth and would be related to the reduction in power and abilities, I guess.
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) All power comes from your mind.
With the adoption of the agriculture-based society, writing and written records became more compatible with the new living conditions, just as they must have been needed for accounts, taxation, contracts, and general administration. If there was also a decrease in mental faculties, in particular memory, it could have made writing more necessary. Do we witness a parallel today? In the last 50 years, there has been a shift away from written and printed records to digital and visual. The motivations have been many including, ease of use, business and job opportunities, speed of communication, and for some the increased capacity to control others. At the same time, there have been some observations from teachers and psychologists that technological advances do not necessarily translate to gains in the development of mental skills in children and students. There are advantages and disadvantages.
Birds, speech, and writing
In a search, the following turned up:
In
Session 16 August 1997
Q: We have the phoenix, cranes, herons, doves, ravens, and all are related somehow to speech or writing. Why are all these birds related this way?
A: Pass the test.
Q: What do you mean 'pass the test?'
A: Discover.
Q: Well, writing is related to the words for cutting and inscribing and even shearing and sharks. You called the Etruscans 'Penitant Avian Lords,' who were also 'Templar Carriers.' Is this related to these bird images? Then related to speech, writing and shearing?
A: Pass the test.
Q: So, if you are writing, and you pass the test, then you can be a phoenix, dove or whatever?
A: Discover.
Writing can give the soul of an author wings and by this help him or her to explore unknown territory or share discoveries, sentiments, and stories with others.
Looking up the etymology of writing, there is as indicated in the comment from Laura, something about cutting:
write (v.)
Old English writan "to score, outline, draw the figure of," later "to set down in writing" (class I strong verb; past tense wrat, past participle writen), from Proto-Germanic *writan "tear, scratch" (source also of Old Frisian writa "to write," Old Saxon writan "to tear, scratch, write," Old Norse rita "write, scratch, outline," Old High German rizan "to write, scratch, tear," German reißen "to tear, pull, tug, sketch, draw, design"), outside connections doubtful.
[...]
Words for "write" in most Indo-European languages originally mean "carve, scratch, cut" (such as Latin scribere, Greek graphein, glyphein, Sanskrit rikh-);
a few originally meant "paint" (Gothic meljan, Old Church Slavonic pisati, and most of the modern Slavic cognates).
A humorous relationship between the feet of birds and the practice of learning to write?
In English, illegible handwriting, more often found among younger students, is sometimes called bird scratch writing or
chicken scratch writing. In Scandinavian languages, the same phenomenon can be referred to as crow's feet [Danish: kragetæer]. The problem is less today thanks to computers; however going back in history, before even typewriters, much time was spent on developing readable handwriting. Still further back in time, before paper became available, one might have to use a sharp stone to scratch a message on a piece of wood, carve it out with a knife, or more time demanding, chisel out letters or images into a stone. Many of these attempts to write, might look like chicken scratch writing or "crow's feet". Have you tried?
To tie a connection between an excerpt further up, that mentioned the Phoenix bird, and the next about Indian history and Dravidian languages, there was:
Session 18 October 1994
Q: (L) What is the source of the legend of the phoenix?
A: Ancient Indian destruction and rebuilding.
Ancient Indian destruction and rebuilding, judging from statements in other sessions, refers to an ancient nuclear war. It is also mentioned in the following where the question of interest is:
What is the origin of the Dravidian languages? Paranthas
The discussion surrounding the question was:
Session 9 March 2024
(seek10) The C's mentioned that the Book of Enoch was written by a Sanskrit society in India...
(L) And I think you have to really distinguish because there are various parts to the Book of Enoch and some of them are older than other parts. The very oldest parts I'm assuming we will be asking this question about.
(seek10) The C's mentioned that the Book of Enoch was written by a Sanskrit society in India and that there was a nuclear war between then and the expanded present. The question is: Were the Paranthas the Sanskrit society in India at that time?
A: No.
(L) Now you're going to get a little circle here, seek10:
(seek10) If so, what is the origin of the Dravidian languages?
(L) It's not so, so I'll still ask:
What is the origin of the Dravidian languages?
A: Paranthas.
Q: (L) And that didn't help much, did it? I knew they were going to do that. I knew it! [laughter]
(seek10) So can I ask, is there any way we can identify who was in India at that time?
A: Paranthas and Atlantean types and some Kantekkian types. See Mohenjo-daro and related sites.
Q: (L) Okay.
(seek10) Was the period of the writing of the Book of Enoch before the destruction of Kantek?
A: No.
Q: (L) Here's another one:
(seek10) Is the Haplogroup F-M89 migration signal in DNA study a result of the 50,000-year-ago nuclear war?
(L) Can we have some background on that? We don't even know what you're talking about.
(seek10) Yeah, so when I look at
the DNA studies, the
Haplogroup F-M89 signal is spreading from the center of India to the south and to the other areas. Other areas are Southeast Asia, Indonesia, and Australia.
That specific signal is around 48K BCE. It is exactly matching with the nuclear war period. So based on that, it looks like that nuclear war happened in North/Central India. This makes sense, because the Kantekkians were occupying the Northern Hemisphere. So the natural target would have been the north/central portion of India. Of course they could have bombed the south too. But based on the signal, it happened in North/Central India.
(L) Okay, so is the Haplogroup F-M89 migration signal in DNA study a result of the 50,000 year-ago nuclear war?
A: Good find!
Q: (L) I think that's a yes! Yeah, it's a good catch. Okay.
(seek10) How long after the nuclear war did North India become inhabitable? Assuming 50% of the destroyed land that the C’s mentioned is located in North/Central India. Is it 2000 years?
A: Close
The answer that the origin of the Dravidian languages is the Paranthas, leaves me wondering how this development and creation took place. Before asking any question in that direction, below are some details taken from the
Wiki about Dravidian languages:
The
Dravidian languages (sometimes called
Dravidic[2]) are a
family of languages spoken by 250 million people, mainly in
southern India, north-east
Sri Lanka, south-west
Pakistan and some regions of
Nepal.
[1][3] Dravidian is first attested in the 2nd century BCE, as inscriptions in
Tamil-Brahmi script on cave walls in the
Madurai and
Tirunelveli districts of
Tamil Nadu.
[4][a]
The Dravidian languages with the most speakers are (in descending order of number of speakers)
Telugu,
Tamil,
Kannada and
Malayalam, all of which have long literary traditions. Smaller literary languages are
Tulu and
Kodava.
[5] Together with several smaller languages such as
Gondi, these languages cover the southern part of India and the northeast of
Sri Lanka, and account for the overwhelming majority of speakers of Dravidian languages.
Malto and
Kurukh are spoken in isolated pockets in eastern India. Kurukh is also spoken in parts of
Nepal,
Bhutan and
Bangladesh.
[6] Brahui is mostly spoken in the
Balochistan region of
Pakistan,
Iranian Balochistan,
Afghanistan and around the
Marw oasis in
Turkmenistan.
[...]
The
reconstructed proto-language of the family is known as
proto-Dravidian.
Dravidian place names along the Arabian Sea coast and clear signs of Dravidian phonological and grammatical influence (e.g.
retroflex consonants and
clusivity) in the
Indo-Aryan languages suggest that Dravidian languages were spoken more widely across the
Indian subcontinent before the spread of the Indo-Aryan languages.
[8][9][10]
[...]
the
reconstructed vocabulary of proto-Dravidian suggests that the homeland of its speakers lay in South Asia.[15][16][17]Dravidian languages - Wikipedia Despite many attempts, the family has not been shown to be related to any other.[19]
To put the Dravidian language family into context, there is the Wiki on
Language families presents an astonishing number of languages:
Major language families
Main article:
List of language families
Estimates of the number of language families in the world may vary widely. According to
Ethnologue there are 7,151
living human languages distributed in 142 different language families.
[5][6] Lyle Campbell (2019) identifies a total of 406 independent language families, including isolates.
[7]
Ethnologue 27 (2024) lists the following families that contain at least 1% of the 7,164 known languages in the world:
[8]
Glottolog 4.7 (2022) lists the following as the largest families, of 8,565 languages (other than sign languages, pidgins, and unclassifiable languages):
[9]
Language counts can vary significantly depending on what is considered a dialect; for example
Lyle Campbell counts only 27 Otomanguean languages, although he,
Ethnologue and Glottolog also disagree as to which languages belong in the family.
There is sufficient variation to raise questions. Is it 142 (Etnologue) or 406 (Campbell) language families? However, both the Etnologue and the Glottologue appear to mostly agree on the names and the number of the largest families.
