Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy (HBOT): General information and discussion of Home Units

I have a user group in mind. My user candidates are elderly, not at their best state of health, and some, including myself, are claustrophobic. Some also have some balancing problems due to their health problems.

This is why my chamber preferences might slightly differ from other peoples'.

My priorities are:

- easy entry and exit
- sufficient space for claustrophobic people
- price

In my above post I have linked some chambers that seem to be suitable. In general I prefer the sitting type chambers. There are foldable chairs for this chambers(accessories) that can be adjusted to a sitting or semi-lying position according to personal preferences.

Further I prefer chambers with vertical zippers. I have some hope that they can be equipped with additional sealings so they can reach higher pressures, closer to 2.0 ata. This is my own idea and it is early days but at least one company, Flexpert, have their own designers and are willing to adjust their product.

My current favourites are the first two chambers from the Flexpert catalogue (attached above), the wheelchair chamber and the vertical cylinder.

Seems like the wheelchair chamber would best suit your needs. The sitting/semi-lying chamber from Flexpert is quite narrow on the inside with small windows, which might not be good for claustrophobia. Oxyrevo's sitting-semi-lying one is significantly larger with more windows, but it's 1.4ATA and might not suit your needs for access. Have a look.


Also check out their wheelchair one (also 1.4ATA).

 
Macypan got back to me and it seems there isn't much of a discount on the 1.5ATA lying chamber with 10L concentrator. This is their price per unit if 5 are ordered:

Ok if you buy 5 units,the price will be 4650$/unit include chamber,10L oxygen concentrator,air cooler and air compressure.
And about the ship cost,you need give me your address,i will check for you.
 
Seems like the wheelchair chamber would best suit your needs. The sitting/semi-lying chamber from Flexpert is quite narrow on the inside with small windows, which might not be good for claustrophobia. Oxyrevo's sitting-semi-lying one is significantly larger with more windows, but it's 1.4ATA and might not suit your needs for access. Have a look.
Yes, I fully agree and thanks for your input.
For claustrophobic people the wheelchair chamber and the vertical round chamber (H 200cm, W 185 cm) are the top candidates. Both from the Flexpert catalogue.
 
As someone already noted, it is dependent on the individual and his/her condition/issues. Obviously, the anti-oxidants/detox supplements should be taken with your regular routine supplements.

For example: I have to take a LOT of magnesium; Ark does not. He drinks magnesium water daily so if I were to give him magnesium, it would not be pleasant. I, on the other hand, drink only distilled water...

I take a baby aspirin every day; Ark takes Kardegic which combines aspirin with Lysine. He is susceptible to shingles, I am not.

We both take metformin every day, though in different dosages.

Ark has a supplement with Vitamin E for his eyes. I can't take vitamin E since it inflames me, but I take another eye supplement without it.

We both take biotin, but in different dosages.

I take Sermion (nicergoline) daily, but Ark does not since it stresses the kidneys and since his chemo, we have to take care with that.

We both take liposomal Vitamin C.

I take B vitamins, Ark does not since his blood work shows that his B vites are very good. Mine are not.

We both take Vitamin D and K2.

I take fish oil, Ark does not since it is incorporated into his eye supplement.

We both take pycnogenol, but in different dosages.

We both take Aterina (sulodexide) daily.

We both take mucosan (ambroxol) daily.

You will note that a number of supplements we take are geared at circulatory system issues. At our age, with our individual histories, these are necessary. But each of the supplements we take for this approach a different aspect of that potential problem.

For anti-ox, as noted, Vitamin C... and we also take Glutathione.

I take an iodine pill once a week on Sunday, Ark does not. His blood work shows that he does not need it, but I do.

Once or twice a week, we take a multi-mineral supplement without iron.

So, as you can see, our plans are individualized, but similar.
How much iodine do you take? I have a little conundrum, my iodine test showed 74% so I'm not fully saturated but not very low either, right? But as I remember it the Cs said that if you want ta kill virus/bugs with iodine you need to do over 100mg (but I can't find the reference). On the other hand if I don't take iodine (or all other supplements) the bugs feed on my body, because something has been feeding on me the last 10 years, joints, muscles, bones, skin etc. and I guess it is Lyme/co-infections.

I'm not sure but I think I get worse when I take low doses of iodine regularly, like 10-25 mg/day, so maybe it is better to take a big dose once week?
 
Joe said: Macypan got back to me and it seems there isn't much of a discount on the 1.5ATA lying chamber with 10L concentrator. This is their price per unit if 5 are ordered:

Ok if you buy 5 units,the price will be 4650$/unit include chamber,10L oxygen concentrator,air cooler and air compressure.
And about the ship cost,you need give me your address,i will check for you.
Well, that's a bit over my budget adding shipping and customs fees. However, I was thinking about getting a 1.3ATA chamber and whether or not it's less effective compared to 1.5ATA. I mean from what I understand it just takes longer to expose yourself to pressure but in the end, the overall effects should be about the same?
 
How much iodine do you take? I have a little conundrum, my iodine test showed 74% so I'm not fully saturated but not very low either, right? But as I remember it the Cs said that if you want ta kill virus/bugs with iodine you need to do over 100mg (but I can't find the reference). On the other hand if I don't take iodine (or all other supplements) the bugs feed on my body, because something has been feeding on me the last 10 years, joints, muscles, bones, skin etc. and I guess it is Lyme/co-infections.

I'm not sure but I think I get worse when I take low doses of iodine regularly, like 10-25 mg/day, so maybe it is better to take a big dose once week?
I have a pill with 6.5 mg and I take it about 3 times per week.
 
Well, that's a bit over my budget adding shipping and customs fees. However, I was thinking about getting a 1.3ATA chamber and whether or not it's less effective compared to 1.5ATA. I mean from what I understand it just takes longer to expose yourself to pressure but in the end, the overall effects should be about the same?

Pretty much. You'd probably need to do it every day for a year to start, and then just do a few weeks a year after that. But, as someone else on the thread said, I don't see a problem with using the HBOT almost continuously for the rest of one's life.
 
How much iodine do you take? I have a little conundrum, my iodine test showed 74% so I'm not fully saturated but not very low either, right? But as I remember it the Cs said that if you want ta kill virus/bugs with iodine you need to do over 100mg (but I can't find the reference). On the other hand if I don't take iodine (or all other supplements) the bugs feed on my body, because something has been feeding on me the last 10 years, joints, muscles, bones, skin etc. and I guess it is Lyme/co-infections.
21-Nov-2015
Q: (L) Well the only thing I know to help others be ready is by informing them, letting them know what's going on, and trying to help them get ahold of their health. If they don't have their health, they aren't able to cope with anything. They're not able to cope with life as it is much less if it gets any weirder or worse. So, on that point, let me ask about this iodine therapy. I just read this iodine book by a David Brownstein: “Iodine: Why You Need It, Why You Can't Live Without It”. This guy talks about how iodine can kill fungi, bacteria, viruses, detox heavy metals from the body, even the ones that other detox methods don’t get, remove evil fluoride, and basically just has miraculous effects on all the body systems. He says that 96% of all people on the planet are iodine deficient. When people come to him, he generally starts them off at pretty high doses, like 50 to 100mg a day, and sometimes twice a day. This is supposed to not only replenish the body’s iodine, but also to detox bromines, fluorines, metals, etc. It can also kill off any microbes that have taken up residence because of the body’s weakened immune system due to all those toxins. But there is this other book that I read which says that you ought to start off slowly and build up because of detox side-effects or whatnot. So, some people have started slow and as soon as they have a few drops, they start having symptoms. What are these symptoms from? Is it detox or what?

A: Activation of microbes drawing on the enhanced energy.

Q: (L) We sort of wondered if that was the case. Several of us, as soon as we had been taking iodine a few days, old issues started coming up, like cold sores and such. Several of us started having pains and tiredness and activation of some kind of viral condition, stiff neck, and a bunch of other things. It was similar to the herx reactions we had with the anti-biotic protocol. On the other hand, it seemed more like the viruses got energized by the iodine. Chu even had an attack of her cocksackie virus that flares up in her pancreas about once or twice a year. That’s what made me think that instead of backing off and lowering the dose, the best thing would be to raise the dose and nuke the critters. So, Chu doubled the dose and then did it twice a day. You went from 5 drops a day to 10 drops twice a day?

(Chu) Yeah.

(L) So, Instead of backing off like this other book says you should do, she just went full bore whole hog and nuked 'em. Is that advisable?

A: Indeed. The battle is difficult to win if you keep supplying the "critters" with food and energy.

Q: (Chu) And before, they said people who get symptoms, it's activation of microbes drawing on the enhanced energy...

(L) So if you get energized by taking the iodine, that energizes your critters too, and they start getting more active. But you're not taking enough of a dose to kill them. You're just taking enough to energize yourself, which then feeds them because you're not taking a microbicidal dose.

A: Exactly.

Q: (L) Timótheos did the same thing and so did the rest of us. When we started getting symptoms, we just took it up to the doses that Brownstein talks about: 50 to 100 mg per day or more. Okay. One of the things that Brownstein says in the book is that many people's problems are not so much critters as it is heavy metals. The iodine removes cadmium, mercury, lead, all kinds of metals from the body. It even cleans them out of the endocrine systems, which they preferentially occupy – it even removes the fluoride out of the pineal gland which is where it likes to live. Is that true? Does it do that?

A: Yes yes yes
 
Yes, I remember that one, but the reference to "over 100mg to nuke bugs" is maybe a mental note I made in my mind, I don't know, even though I could swear the Cs or Laura and crew said that. Thanks seek10.

@worldbridger I think you are remembering the 100mg but it is only mentioned once in a Cs quote in all the sessions and it is in reference to nicotine.

Session 27 June 1998:
Q: What other things does nicotine do?

A: Raises defences.

Q: What kind?

A: Immunological.

Q: Anything else?

A: Excites neurotransmitters. You require less sleep.

Q: Is this true for everyone?

A: No.

Q: (A) How much nicotine is necessary?

A: 100 mg per day.


Q: (A) Can it be in pill form?

A: Cigarettes infuse it to brain tissues most effectively.
It is easy to remember parts of a session but the details can blur together sometimes. 100 mg of nicotine is about 1 pack a day or 20 cigarettes.
 
@worldbridger I think you are remembering the 100mg but it is only mentioned once in a Cs quote in all the sessions and it is in reference to nicotine.

Session 27 June 1998:

It is easy to remember parts of a session but the details can blur together sometimes. 100 mg of nicotine is about 1 pack a day or 20 cigarettes.
100 mg per 20 cigaretts….sounds a lot. What kind of tobacco is that? American Spirit label says 1-2 mg per cigarett, referring I think to how much a smoker inhales/absorbs even though the cigarett may contain 10-20 mg. But I never thought about it to be honest.
 
Ok, time for an update. Been a while and a lot of ups and downs since last time, just too exhausted and confused what's been going on.

After new year I started to do one session a day instead of two, feels ok. Came down with a nasty flu after a visit, had to skip HBOT for a week.

I finally got rid of my chronic diarrhoea after 10 months, iodine nuking for 4 days, Ivermectin for 4 weeks and then some Sach. Boulardii, what a relief.

In Feb I fainted and collapsed and hurt my ankles, knees, chest and back really bad, bedridden 24/7 for 2 weeks and depressed since I didn't know how bad it was since I have pretty severe osteoporosis and arthritis . Took 3 weeks to recover. Never fainted before and it was due to sudden unexplainable low blood pressure. Been craving salt the last 4 months even though I really put a lot of salt on my food, and I mean a lot, since I'm a salt guy. I eat extra salt cubes (Celtic Sea Salt - Macai Pure) now and I like it.

When I started doing the HBOT in Aug I got quickly better, joints and energy, then after 2-3months I guess the healing and repair started. It seems that the body takes care of different parts at its own pace and priority. It comes back to the same area over and over again, slightly different each time. It is a marathon, and I never liked running…:).

My rash/herpes/histamin thing on my face and arms/hands/elbows are slowly going away and I have lost all my "cortisone fat" on my body and slowly been gaining some muscles, very slowly. Still underweight.

I'm still tweaking my protocol and slowly adding foods and supplements and it took me over a year to come up to the doses I take today, a lot of trial and error. I have a few more things to add and I hope I will be able to include all of them this summer.

I've taking up smoking again after two years….nice.

Despite this rollercoaster I can definitely say that I'm better compared with 9 months ago, have more stamina, less pain, improved joints, mental clarity and ridiculously thick hair, almost annoying. Skin on my hands have not improved though, eye sight is the same. Also had a lot of interesting dreams.

Moved to a new bigger apartment with a balcony and can now have a smoke and get some sun in my face, what a blessing.
 
Despite this rollercoaster I can definitely say that I'm better compared with 9 months ago, have more stamina, less pain, improved joints, mental clarity and ridiculously thick hair, almost annoying. Skin on my hands have not improved though, eye sight is the same. Also had a lot of interesting dreams.
Very impressive and I guess it is not the end of the Hbot benefit for you!
 
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