Iodine and Potassium Iodide

[Galaxia2002]

If my Lugol's is 10mg I + 20mg KI in 1g of liquid, how much percentage is it? 30%?

The most important thing is the level of Iodine per 1 drop.

One metric drop should be 0.5 ml ( but this is subjective so instead of pipette I suggest using 1 ml syringe) this equals 0.5 grams.
So it follows that one drop of your solution contains 5mg of Iodine and 10 mg of KI.

Now since KI is not just Iodine we need to establish the quantity of Iodine.

Potassium molecular weight is 39
Iodine molecular weight is 127
Potassium iodide is therefore 166

So percent iodine in KI is 127/166*100= 76.5 %

So of the 10mg you need to count 76.5/100*10 = 7.65 mg

Therefore one drop of your solution has total of 7.65 + 5 =12.65g of Iodine.

Which happens to be maintenance dose per day for people who have no serious health issues.

The calculation is not right.

76.5 % of the 20 mg are iodine. So this is 20*76.5/100 = 15.3 mg of iodine
You have to take into account the whole 10 mg of iodine because it is already in its elemental form so you have 15.3 mg + 10 mg = 25.3 mg of total iodine per 1 g of solution .
in 1 g of solution (about 1 ml) there is about 20 drops (you can adjust this value with the same dropper you will use to take it) 25.3 mg/20 drop by ml = 1.26 mg per drop. So that lugol's is really low in iodine.

 

[Divide by Zero]

Sounds like a good plan!

Take note of the tiredness and don't do anything overwhelming while you feel like that.

On page 115 of Dr. Brownstein's book, he gives the following formula:

How to Calculate Your Water Intake

1. Take your weight in pounds
2. Divide by 2
3. The calculated number is the amount of water you should ingest in ounces per day

For those who think metric, the better system :)
Take your weight in Kilos
multiply by 32
Gives you water to drink in ml. (divide by 1000 for L)

To cups:
1 "cup" is 8 oz. A lot of the cups we use are 12 oz or so.
In metric 8oz -> 240ml , and 12 oz is around 350 ml.

 

[marek760]

If my Lugol's is 10mg I + 20mg KI in 1g of liquid, how much percentage is it? 30%?

I meant: is it 3%?

I think it is 1% because 10 mg (i.e. 0.01g) of iodine is 1/100th (i.e. 1%) of the total volume (1g).

I think 10mg is 0.10g or 0.1g
1 mg is 0.01g

so, 10mg I + 20mg KI in 1 g liquid, the solution is, more or less 10%

 

[Goemon_]

If my Lugol's is 10mg I + 20mg KI in 1g of liquid, how much percentage is it? 30%?

I meant: is it 3%?

I think it is 1% because 10 mg (i.e. 0.01g) of iodine is 1/100th (i.e. 1%) of the total volume (1g).

I think 10mg is 0.10g or 0.1g
1 mg is 0.01g

so, 10mg I + 20mg KI in 1 g liquid, the solution is, more or less 10%

Wrong.

milligram n: unit of weight: thousandth of a gram

0.01g is a centigram

 

[Kay Kim]

Living in highly toxic world, almost everyone is need to take iodine supplement to stay in healthy mind and body, but especially need for removing toxic from thyroid and even the pineal gland where fluoride concentrates.
When take iodine, immediately increases the excretion of bromide, fluoride, and some heavy metals, because iodine has the highest atomic weight of all the common halogens.

Iodine is the only option when it comes to removing these toxic, because bromide and fluoride are not removed by any other chelator or detoxifying technique.

How to avoid fluoride exposure

. Use good water filters.
. Do not use fluoride toothpaste.
. Do not eat processed food.
. Avoid cooking with non-stick(Teflon) pans.
. Do not get fluoride gel treatment from dentist.

What has bromide?

Methyl bromide is pesticide used mainly on strawberries.
Potassium bromate is a dough conditioner found in bakery products and some flours.
Vinly bromide(flame retardant synthetic fibers) used in fabrics, carpet, upholstery and mattresses.
Plastic, like those used to make computers.
Disinfectant for swimming pools, whirl pools, hot tubs contains both chlorine and bromine.
Brominated vegetable oil(BVO) is add to citrus fruity flavor- Gatorade, Powerade, Mountain Dew, squirt, Fresca, Sunkist peach, Fanta orange....
Sodium bromate can be found in personal care products, such as permanent waves, hair dyes, textile dyes.
Medications, such as Atrovent inhaler, Atrovent nasal spray, pro-banthine(for ulcers) and Anesthea agents.

The Dead Sea has the highest concentration in the world of bromine, and where Bath Salt and Mud harvested from.
Today bromine is extracted on an industrial scale from Dead Sea and Salt Lakes.

PBDEs(bromide) are banned in many countries outside the US.

 

[Z...]

If my Lugol's is 10mg I + 20mg KI in 1g of liquid, how much percentage is it? 30%?

The most important thing is the level of Iodine per 1 drop.

One metric drop should be 0.5 ml ( but this is subjective so instead of pipette I suggest using 1 ml syringe) this equals 0.5 grams.
So it follows that one drop of your solution contains 5mg of Iodine and 10 mg of KI.

Now since KI is not just Iodine we need to establish the quantity of Iodine.

Potassium molecular weight is 39
Iodine molecular weight is 127
Potassium iodide is therefore 166

So percent iodine in KI is 127/166*100= 76.5 %

So of the 10mg you need to count 76.5/100*10 = 7.65 mg

Therefore one drop of your solution has total of 7.65 + 5 =12.65g of Iodine.

Which happens to be maintenance dose per day for people who have no serious health issues.

The calculation is not right.

76.5 % of the 20 mg are iodine. So this is 20*76.5/100 = 15.3 mg of iodine
You have to take into account the whole 10 mg of iodine because it is already in its elemental form so you have 15.3 mg + 10 mg = 25.3 mg of total iodine per 1 g of solution .
in 1 g of solution (about 1 ml) there is about 20 drops (you can adjust this value with the same dropper you will use to take it) 25.3 mg/20 drop by ml = 1.26 mg per drop. So that lugol's is really low in iodine.

As stated this is calculation for 0.5 ml ( which some consider incorrectly as one drop) basically half of your result for 1ml.

The confusion here stems from incorrect reference to volume of one drop. I dont know why but some producers count one drop at 0.5 ml and this is how I worked it out.

In any case the best way to dose is to forget about drops altogether and use 1ml syringe that has 10 0.1 gradations.

 

[Galaxia2002]

If my Lugol's is 10mg I + 20mg KI in 1g of liquid, how much percentage is it? 30%?

The most important thing is the level of Iodine per 1 drop.

One metric drop should be 0.5 ml ( but this is subjective so instead of pipette I suggest using 1 ml syringe) this equals 0.5 grams.
So it follows that one drop of your solution contains 5mg of Iodine and 10 mg of KI.

Now since KI is not just Iodine we need to establish the quantity of Iodine.

Potassium molecular weight is 39
Iodine molecular weight is 127
Potassium iodide is therefore 166

So percent iodine in KI is 127/166*100= 76.5 %

So of the 10mg you need to count 76.5/100*10 = 7.65 mg

Therefore one drop of your solution has total of 7.65 + 5 =12.65g of Iodine.

Which happens to be maintenance dose per day for people who have no serious health issues.

The calculation is not right.

76.5 % of the 20 mg are iodine. So this is 20*76.5/100 = 15.3 mg of iodine
You have to take into account the whole 10 mg of iodine because it is already in its elemental form so you have 15.3 mg + 10 mg = 25.3 mg of total iodine per 1 g of solution .
in 1 g of solution (about 1 ml) there is about 20 drops (you can adjust this value with the same dropper you will use to take it) 25.3 mg/20 drop by ml = 1.26 mg per drop. So that lugol's is really low in iodine.

As stated this is calculation for 0.5 ml ( which some consider incorrectly as one drop) basically half of your result for 1ml.

The confusion here stems from incorrect reference to volume of one drop. I dont know why but some producers count one drop at 0.5 ml and this is how I worked it out.

In any case the best way to dose is to forget about drops altogether and use 1ml syringe that has 10 0.1 gradations.

Ok now I understand why you calculated it in the way you did it. But 0.5 ml as a drop would be the biggest drop I've ever seen in my life! :) I take a dropper and count 20 drops by mL. But as you said each person has to calibrate with its dropper.

From wiki:

Pharmacists have since moved to metric measurements, with a drop being rounded to exactly 0.05 mL (that is, 20 drops per milliliter). In hospitals, intravenous tubing is used to deliver medication in drops of various sizes ranging from 10 drops/mL to 60 drops/mL.

10 drops by ml corresponds to the biggest drop. It is 0.1 ml per drop. So to have a drop of 0.5 mL ( 5 fold 0.1 ml drop) is not correct in my opinion.

 

[Mildain]

Upon closer inspection, the bottle says 2.5g (1 teaspoon) worth contains 205mg of elemental magnesium. However, It doesnt say on the bottle what kind of bioavailability it has. Im having difficulty tracking these numbers down because lots of websites claim different numbers. In any case, 2 teaspoons is 410mg of elemental magnesium. But, am I actually going to absorb that much ? I might have to take much higher doses if not ?

Can anyone provide some clues to this ?

Thanks.

Regarding bioavailability, the following may be helpful (from 'The Magnesium Miracle' by Dr. Carolyn Dean; p. 37):

Vitamin and mineral interactions with magnesium

Research has not yet progressed to the point where we know all the possible interactions of magnesium. Every year brings more intelligence on the subject.

- Both calcium and magnesium are required in order for either mineral to work properly.
- Sufficient vitamin D is necessary for the body to utilize magnesium.
- Magnesium enters into cells with the support of vitamin B1 (thiamine). If that water-soluble mineral is deficient, even if magnesium is absorbed, it won't get to its destination.
- Selenium helps magnesium stay inside cells where it belongs.

Dean also talks shortly about 'magnesium wasting': where the kidneys can't seem to hold on to magnesium. She suggests magnesium oil for this.

She also writes here:

"The best form for supplements is magnesium citrate powder for people with constipation. Magnesium oil or gel on the skin will help avoid a laxative effect for people who have loose stool. I recommend Angstrom magnesium which is low potency and 100 percent absorbed for people who have loose stool. Supplementation is safe. Magnesium, unlike calcium, is eliminated from the body when there is excess. Elimination is through the bowel and through the urine."

As she describes above, people tolerate magnesium supplements differently. Personally, I found that I tolerate malate and glycinate best.

If you feel like you're not getting enough, you can try to have a bit more and see what happens. But generally, if you take a teaspoon or less in water twice a day it should be alright, unless you notice you're not getting any benefits from it, in which case perhaps you can try out magnesium oil or another magnesium supplement. Taking selenium, vit B complex, vit D may also help in that case. Hope this helps a bit!

Thanks alot for this info Oxajil. I'll put it to good use and come up with a better protocol for me to follow. I think supplementation is a good idea, I just don't want to start doing it all at once. I figure i'll try and add in some stuff slowly to see how that goes.

I just wanted to point out, after my fourth day of 30 drops 2% lugols, I feel fantastic. No symptoms to report, other than a very slight physical disorientation for 4 hours after taking it - but it's barely even noticeable, and it actually feels kinda good. But I do notice a HUGE increase in energy, mood, and overall feelings of well being. I feel alot more rested as well, I goto work and I don't ever feel tired anymore (at least for the last 4 days.) My eyes don't bother me in the mornings anymore either. So far so good.

Im going to be ordering brownsteins book so I can understand this subject more clearly.

Thanks so much everyone

 

[marek760]

If my Lugol's is 10mg I + 20mg KI in 1g of liquid, how much percentage is it? 30%?

I meant: is it 3%?

I think it is 1% because 10 mg (i.e. 0.01g) of iodine is 1/100th (i.e. 1%) of the total volume (1g).

I think 10mg is 0.10g or 0.1g
1 mg is 0.01g

so, 10mg I + 20mg KI in 1 g liquid, the solution is, more or less 10%

Wrong.

milligram n: unit of weight: thousandth of a gram

0.01g is a centigram

Yes, you are right, solution will be 1%, as Pierre mentioned above.
my mistake.

 

[Goemon_]

I have started taking Lugol.

One 15% solution drop a day during 3 days.

This morning (day 4) I started having brain fog so I will make a brake on Lugol for 1 or 2 days continuing with the salted water and Vit C.

And I will take a nap.

 

[Konstantin]

I have read the whole thread about iodine and Dr Brownsteins book, but i still cant decide it its safe enough or not for her to suplement with iodine
I only remember that Lodoral pills are better solution for people with gastric problems.

There is a little bit of info on that on The Iodine Crisis by Lynne Farrow, so maybe you'll find more information on the Cure Zone forum.

One drop of a lower percentage of lugol diluted in water after eating should be pretty okay. In fact, lugol has been used to treat GERD and gastroparesia. There is a testimonial on The Iodine Crisis that is very interesting.

Iodoral could be a solution, just keep in mind that it has a specific dose. It might be okay, or the dose might be too high for her.

Thank you Gaby
I try to find the book " The iodine Crisis" and search the Cure zone forum and see what can i find more. I must collect some more information before my Lugol`s come and before supplement it.

 

[Konstantin]

I ordered the Lugol`s iodine solution and it should arrive in about a month. Also all other co-factors.

My wife have a problem with her esophagus. Very often she have a feeling that when she eats thah the food is stucked there. Its not realy stucked there but she have that feeling. After eating a high carb food she also have a feeling of burning. GERD. Also her stomach fells like it burning.She even feels it on her back. Like a burning sensation that is mixed with pain at her upper back.
She had a gastroendoscopy few years ago and i cant find the papers with her final diagnosis.I just know that the doctor said that she have huge amount od acid in her stomach and her esophagus looks like it have a lot of red spots on its surface. No ulcers or any other changes.

I had something similar and the doctor said it was fat, but the only thing that fixed it was to give up carbs. It wasn't the meat in the "meat and potatoes", it was the potatoes.

The question is, can she use the iodine protocol without making more damage to the current condition.
I have read some articles that said that Lugols condition can make situation worst.

Here is one example

_http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2853081/

In the above article it says that in Esophagogastroduodenoscopy Lugols solution is sprayed directly on the esophagus.

It's also about people with stomach cancer.

So in this protocol we are using just a few drops of Lugols in a glass of water , so it is a very diluted when it passes through the esophagus.

I have read the whole thread about iodine and Dr Brownsteins book, but i still cant decide it its safe enough or not for her to suplement with iodine
I only remember that Lodoral pills are better solution for people with gastric problems.

Once , few months ago tried one capsulle of Betaine HCL and she have a not very plesant reaction.I was not at home when she tried it but she said that she panicked and she feel that her thong became swollen and for a few minutes it was back to normal , and after that just a slightly burning sensation in her stomach.Or maybe it was just a panic attack.

The gastric problems you are talking about in relation to your wife sound exactly like the reflux and supposed hiatal hernia I was diagnosed with many years ago but which went away completely when I cut out carbs. (If I eat them occasionally, it can still make me have a very acidic stomach and I have to sit upright until all is digested...) It doesn't sound to me like she is suffering from a squamous cell condition as described in the paper you found.

I would just continue at a moderate dose in water, followed by drinking more water, and definitely give up the carbs.

Thank you Laura
Over the last few years i managed to upright the fat consumption in my family in general. But i failed to make them aware of the evil carbs. My wife and my family in general are consuming carbs in every meal. Sometimes when she eats just a meat and fats without any bread or any kind of carbs , her gastric problems dont exist.
As you have said the problem is in the potatoes not in the meat.And she knows that too but she cant give up the carbs and especially bread and pasta.

So for now i`ll search for a little more informations before my Lugols arrive and i` start with a minimal dose and see how will situation develop

 

[Konstantin]

My wife have a problem with her esophagus. Very often she have a feeling that when she eats thah the food is stucked there. Its not realy stucked there but she have that feeling. After eating a high carb food she also have a feeling of burning. GERD. Also her stomach fells like it burning.She even feels it on her back. Like a burning sensation that is mixed with pain at her upper back.

It does sound like it might be a Hiatal Hernia to me. I'm dealing with one now and think I've had trouble with it for years (possibly longer). I haven't found a permanent fix yet in my case (including cutting carbs), but it's possible to get a diagnosis and adjustment from a chiropractor, applied kinesiologist, and possibly a good massage therapist, so it might be worth looking into. There's a thread and article on SOTT about hiatal hernias here:

https://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=26922.0

http://www.sott.net/article/306463-Hiatal-Hernia-the-great-mimic-Common-condition-that-causes-digestive-issues-difficulty-breathing-increased-stress

Where i live its a almost impossible to find such a therapists. The only way we can do it is by diet changes and some suplementation.

Thank you Foxx

 

[Konstantin]

While searching the CureZone forum i found some interesting information regarding iodine and sugars

The Tate & Lyle study was originally investigating the sweetness of Sugar spin-offs, specifically those substituted with halogens. Halogens are powerful elements that help dissolve one substance into another. The researchers at Queen’s College determined that five closely related halogens - fluorine, chlorine, bromine, iodine, and astatine (see below) - change the sweetness of the Sugar molecule, with chlorine and bromine being the most effective.

The Halogens:

* Fluorine - poisonous pale yellow gas
* Chlorine - poisonous pale green gas
* Bromine - toxic and caustic brown volatile liquid
* Iodine - shiny black solid which forms aninspiringly beautiful violet vapor when heated
* Astatine – (means unstable); a manmade radioactive chemical that does not occur in nature

Chlorine was chosen because as a lighter halogen, it more easily dissolves in other substances, and combines readily with the sucrose for sugar substitution. The chlorine has to be chemically altered, though, to be very tightly bound so that it doesn’t break down inside the human body.

_http://www.splendaexposed.com/articles/2005/02/weird_science_h.html

Food For Thought

If the chorine in sucralose breaks free before it is completely excreted from your body, doesn’t it make the contents of sucralose a carcinogen because chlorine causes cancer in humans and other animals?


Read the rest of this site.

EDIT

_http://www.icnr.com/articles/hhp/Iodine2.pdf

_http://www.thebreathoflife.net/newsletter/apr2006.pdf

do a search for Splenda in the pdf

On the site splendaexposed ( first link above) is described how splenda is made and how it is loaded with halogens. And artificial sweeteners are put everywhere today, so people are loading even more halogens in their body. So its a good text to read if somebody is on iodine protocol and consuming this sweet poisons in the same time.

 

[kanader]

half way through this thread and I must say, very fascinating stuff ! Thank all for sharing your experiences, cant wait to add my own !

I do not have finish to read the whole yet, but I wanted to answer to PERLOU... Sorry if this has already been done later.

Qui connaitrait le nom du produit en France pour l'acheter ?... Merci d'avance...

Who connaitrait the name of the product in France to buy it?... Thank you in advance...

I bought mine here, mostly because it is less expensive than the one on Amazon despite the fact it is also made from Dr Clarck:
Lugol's solution 5% http://www.sante-detox.com/acides-amines/151-solution-d-iode-du-dr-clark.html
This Website is specific to the Dr Clarck's work in French.

Or here also in French: http://www.silver47.eu/boutique.html
For more or less the same price as Amazon one, but we do not know the size of the product: that's why I did not buy it there. But for the record, they have some others stuffs there, that could be helpul.
Plus, it is from this very Website that was find out a Dr Guy Abraham's article in French recently edited on Sott.

I hope this helps. :)

As noted, Hulda Clark's version of Lugol's, is not Lugol's as the potassium iodide is replaced with sodium iodide and the effectiveness may be lessened. I'm not sure on this so someone needs to check it out.

For the few euros difference, I'd rather get the one on amazon.fr.
http://www.amazon.fr/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_0_5

That's strange, I just ordered Brownstein's book with a bottle of Lugol's Iodine 12% Solution from this site : https://www.healthleadsuk.com/supplements/buy-togethers/lugols-and-iodine-kit.html
They've specified that their Lugol was base on Clark's recipe and that she use potassium iodide ?

Ingredients

Health Leads makes Lugol's solution according to the Dr Hulda Clark recipe. Lugol's contains iodine (I2) and potassium iodide (KI). For a 1000ml amount: 44g of iodine and 88g of potassium iodide are added to 750ml and when dissolved this is topped up to make 1000ml of distilled water.

Foods with Iodine

It can be difficult to know where to get iodine but there are many foods with iodine. These include seaweed or sea kelp, fish, meat, cheese and many more.


What's in our Lugol's?

Per metric drop: 2.2mg of iodine and 3.3mg of iodide.

5.54mg per drop of elemental iodine.

Our Lugol's formula is the one recommended by Dr. Hulda Clark. According to Wikipedia a "5% solution consists of 5% (wt/v) iodine (I2) and 10% (wt/v) potassium iodide (KI) mixed in distilled water." However, the convention for naming Lugols Solution this way is misleading. The Potassium Iodide also contains iodine. In fact, 76% of the weight of each KI molecule is the iodine atom. Therefore, in order to understand the full amount of iodine in a solution add: the amount of pure iodine (I2) PLUS (.76 x potassium iodide). For our solution the quantities are: 44g + (.76 x 88g) = 111g. Rounding up this gives you our 12% solution. (as calculated by a weight/volume measurement)

Other factors need to be considered that contribute to the strength of the solution. For example, how much is a "drop"? In providing the above information, we have decided to follow the standard metric description that 1 drop = 1/20 of 1ml. (You may be interested to know that we measured 15 vertical drops from the actual pipette as equal to 1ml). Plus whether the drop is a vertical or horizontal drop also factors in to the quantity.

When comparing the strength that is claimed on a bottle of Lugol's Iodine, in addition to what has already been stated, other considerations include the quantity of distilled water used and the ambient temperature when the product is made.

Considering everything stated here, 12% can only be stated as an APPROXIMATE amount of iodine content.

The history of iodine and Lugol's

Jean Francois Coindet (1774-1834) was the first to use iodine for medicinal use.

Lugol's was first made by French physician J G A Lugol in 1829. Dr Lugol researched substances that could help treat infections and found that iodine could be used and showed promise in this field. He used the 1:2 ratio of iodine to potassium iodide that is still used today.

For a detailed study of benefits, precautions and contraindications please view Iodine - Why you need it, why you cant live without it

http://www.healthleadsuk.com/supplements/liquid-concentrates-solutions-etc/lugols-iodine-solution-12-per-cent.html

Should I take it that this was a misleading statement ? :O