Session 23 September 2023

Thank you Laura and all members who could join in this fascinating session, full of humor and great and pertinent questions.

Thanks to all members who contribute to the discussion.

So many topics for discussion, but I guess I am always amazed by the desperation and by the lust for power and control that our overseers seem to demonstrate. The question of "how evil can they be" always come to my mind whenever I read one of the sessions or when I read SOTT. I think all the knowledge and research about psychopaths, political ponerology and the green agenda and the great reset come to help us understand our interactions with others and our current and historical situation. But even so, I mean, it makes sense that they are unable to (pro)create and unable to laugh, it's all a game to them, it seems. The things they do, it's all a matter of empty survival, at all costs.

Thanks again for offering us so much food for thought and the opportunity to learn together.
 
Thanks for another fascinating session and discussion thread!!

Wow, so much to ponder. And the world is getting more and more insane and full of tension. Humor is a lifesaver! No matter how bad things get, they're also hysterically funny in ways I don't remember in my life before. Like a really good comedy of the absurd with plenty of evil clowns....
 
Thanks for another fascinating session and discussion thread!!

Wow, so much to ponder. And the world is getting more and more insane and full of tension. Humor is a lifesaver! No matter how bad things get, they're also hysterically funny in ways I don't remember in my life before. Like a really good comedy of the absurd with plenty of evil clowns....

Couldn’t agree more! I find that no matter how dire and awful it may seem, to laugh in its face is the stoutest defense. People ask, “How can you laugh?”. I tell them it stops fear in its tracks. Just kills it dead instantly.
 
There is a third one which only have one variation known through time, and is still used today, it is classified as the oldest living language, it's spoken in the Indian continent, called Tamil, it comes from the Dradivian language family which comes from Proto-Dravidian, and the latter could be the one missing between the 3 main languages of the 'big island'? Assuming that there were only 3 main groups in the home base of Atlantis, that is. Interesting stuff nevertheless.

Thanks irjO for the interesting info. Tamil is actually a language that i speak and understand. My Dad was ethnically Tamil, and as a kid i learnt to speak it when conversing with relatives from my Dad's side. Of the few languages that i speak - it is indeed the most unique. I am familiar with the tonal range of many languages in Europe and Asia; and Tamil certainly sounds very different from all of them. It has many rolling R's and a particularly unique L sound - where you have to twist your tongue, and as it hits the back of your teeth pronounce the L.

I never heard any similar language - until one day i was in the highlands of New Guinea (birdwatching) when i attended a big "sing sing" which is a highland festival where all the tribes come to a big town (in this case Mt. Hagen); dress up in full regalia and have big dance and singing festival. Here i saw some tribes that looked a lot like Tamil people from India - and some their languages too had a similar tonal range to Tamil. I found all this very intriguing.

The Tamil's too have a legend that their origin is from a lost continent called "Kumari Kandam" and many speculate that it is Lemuria; but i guess we really dont know; and i think it would be a good question for the Cs.



Just on a very random note (and i hope its not noise) - while writing this post and thinking about languages - i recently watched a TV series called HALO; which is based on a video game. And in the show, the Alient race (Covenant) speak a language called Sangheili. When listening to the actors speak it - it was a language with a tonal range that sounded so familiar - yet very alien at the same time. I thought it was based on some other language from Earth which they just modified or appropriated for the TV series. Turns out they actually created the language from scratch. I wonder where they got the inspiration to create it and here is the video fwiw:

 
Regarding the Oct. 4 test, this was posted in another thread, but I feel it warrants getting as much exposure as possible:

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Now that's starting to get very interesting. There seems to be going a disinformation campaign. There's a word salad and a bunch of semi-scientific information regarding the sudden depopulation event on the 4th of October that "they" are planning, that will be triggered via 5G. Most probably, nothing will happen, but the association that "this was all nonsense" will remain. So what's the goal? Maybe 5G will be put to use, not via some one-shot event, but by constantly frying delinquents, causing organ failures, cancers, insomnias, etc. Now, if someone tries to talk about it, the response will be something akin to: "Yeah right, do you remember the 4th of October?". Just thinking loudly.

I remember that Todd Callender was interviewed by Rainer Fuellmich during the pandemic. I've thought that he's too borderline for them to air him without losing some credibility with his claims. Now he starting to look like a "controlled opposition" to me.

On a side note, Edward Riordan's (he's a remote viewer) dream from 2019:

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There is a third one which only have one variation known through time, and is still used today, it is classified as the oldest living language, it's spoken in the Indian continent, called Tamil, it comes from the Dradivian language family which comes from Proto-Dravidian, and the latter could be the one missing between the 3 main languages of the 'big island'? Assuming that there were only 3 main groups in the home base of Atlantis, that is. Interesting stuff nevertheless.

Thanks irjO for the interesting info. Tamil is actually a language that i speak and understand. My Dad was ethnically Tamil, and as a kid i learnt to speak it when conversing with relatives from my Dad's side. Of the few languages that i speak - it is indeed the most unique. I am familiar with the tonal range of many languages in Europe and Asia; and Tamil certainly sounds very different from all of them. It has many rolling R's and a particularly unique L sound - where you have to twist your tongue, and as it hits the back of your teeth pronounce the L.
Trying to reconstruct the past based on whatever the clues we had. Indian region was populated version of Denosovians during atlantean times.
Is it Another Hit of C's - Ancient Indians as Denisovans or Paranthas


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  • 3 races in Atlantean times ( last extinction around 8500 BCE of Denisovans , I guess due to crystals). - C's
  • Atlantis is like NATO. roots of Sanskrit came from Atlantis - C's
  • Veda's were written by descendants of Parathans , located in india. -C's ( i.e after 8500 BCE) . Vedas has interesting references , nuclear war, atomic bombs, airplanes, surgery and so on.
  • Iranian Farmer Aryans invaded India around 6000 BCE , they used archaic Sanskrit. Before that there are Asian Tribes and one version of Neanderthal - C's
  • But the Indus Valley civilization (5000 BCE -1000 BCE, modern day Afghanistan, Pakistan and North Western India) has more South Indian genes (aka current Dravidian language region) as per genetic analysis - Here
  • Indology - a British ( & European) construct based on written texts of Veda's dates back to 1500 BC written by supposed Kurgan Aryans in Sanskrit - Main Stream history.
    • But this narration has some serious issues
      • Tamil ( more purer Dravidian language )has many Sanskrit roots. No body knows how it came to be.
      • As per British Indology, Vedas are compiled around 1000 BCE , and only put in written format around 100 BCE.
If we try to reconcile the above data points, the following hypothesis makes sense. First we need to take British Indology with grain of salt.
- Let's assume Asian Tribes around 8500- 6000 BCE are descendants of Paranthas. They have their tradition of passing the information through generations. It could be in Proto-Tamil , remnant of Denisovan version in Indian region
- Later came Sanskrit speaking Iranian formers who speak archaic Sanskrit .

The mixture of Atlantean story of Vedas came from both sides - Sanskrit speaking Iranian framer migrants ( 6000 BCE) and local Proto-Tamil(aka Dravidian language) speaking Denisovan( Indian version) remnants.

That is how it looks to me as of now.
 
I never heard any similar language - until one day i was in the highlands of New Guinea (birdwatching) when i attended a big "sing sing" which is a highland festival where all the tribes come to a big town (in this case Mt. Hagen); dress up in full regalia and have big dance and singing festival. Here i saw some tribes that looked a lot like Tamil people from India - and some their languages too had a similar tonal range to Tamil. I found all this very intriguing.
That’s so interesting, thanks for sharing Mr Cyan, I suppose it has the particular factor like basque; Nobody knows exactly were it came from, sounds so unique to other languages in the European continent.

The mixture of Atlantean story of Vedas came from both sides - Sanskrit speaking Iranian framer migrants ( 6000 BCE) and local Proto-Tamil(aka Dravidian language) speaking Denisovan( Indian version) remnants.

That is how it looks to me as of now.

Looks good so far, there is only much data we can gather about it. It’s hard to trace mother languages out of languages that has evolved in so many variations and dialects, also a lot of holes in history that doesn’t help much either. The linguistics came up with the ‘proto’ name on most of the ancient languages only to have like an idea or trace they could follow, from where a specific language came from, not necessarily was like that, but it could also really be the case.
 
MJF wrote : " However to send troops openly to Ukraine for the purposes of training Ukrainian soldiers and acting as military advisors is tantamount to an act of war ". And so I was reminded today of the following :

" There are periods in the life of humanity, which generally coincide with the beginning of the fall of cultures and civilizations, when the masses irretrievably lose their reason and begin to destroy everything that has been created by centuries and milleniums of culture. Such periods of mass madness often coinciding with geological cataclysms, climate changes, and similar phenomena of a planetary character, release a very great quantity of the matter of knowledge ..." G.I. Gurdieff.

" Whosoever shall come to us with the sword shall perish by it. Upon this stood and stands the land of Russia ".
Prince Alexander Nevsky. 13th. century.
It is an extreme challenge to sanity to understand something
about the demonic and foul forces that control, and the restraint required to observe these perilous times boasting such a belly full of betrayal and deception. The dye is cast.
 
Trying to reconstruct the past based on whatever the clues we had. Indian region was populated version of Denosovians during atlantean times.


  • 3 races in Atlantean times ( last extinction around 8500 BCE of Denisovans , I guess due to crystals). - C's
  • Atlantis is like NATO. roots of Sanskrit came from Atlantis - C's
  • Veda's were written by descendants of Parathans , located in india. -C's ( i.e after 8500 BCE) . Vedas has interesting references , nuclear war, atomic bombs, airplanes, surgery and so on.
  • Iranian Farmer Aryans invaded India around 6000 BCE , they used archaic Sanskrit. Before that there are Asian Tribes and one version of Neanderthal - C's
  • But the Indus Valley civilization (5000 BCE -1000 BCE, modern day Afghanistan, Pakistan and North Western India) has more South Indian genes (aka current Dravidian language region) as per genetic analysis - Here
  • Indology - a British ( & European) construct based on written texts of Veda's dates back to 1500 BC written by supposed Kurgan Aryans in Sanskrit - Main Stream history.
    • But this narration has some serious issues
      • Tamil ( more purer Dravidian language )has many Sanskrit roots. No body knows how it came to be.
      • As per British Indology, Vedas are compiled around 1000 BCE , and only put in written format around 100 BCE.
If we try to reconcile the above data points, the following hypothesis makes sense. First we need to take British Indology with grain of salt.
- Let's assume Asian Tribes around 8500- 6000 BCE are descendants of Paranthas. They have their tradition of passing the information through generations. It could be in Proto-Tamil , remnant of Denisovan version in Indian region
- Later came Sanskrit speaking Iranian formers who speak archaic Sanskrit .

The mixture of Atlantean story of Vedas came from both sides - Sanskrit speaking Iranian framer migrants ( 6000 BCE) and local Proto-Tamil(aka Dravidian language) speaking Denisovan( Indian version) remnants.

That is how it looks to me as of now.
Thanks for an interesting assessment based on the information the C's have given us. Do we know roughly when the nuclear war took place between the Celts and the Paranthas?

It is interesting that the city of Mohenjo (meaning in Sindhi 'Mound of the Dead Men'), which stands on the right bank of the Indus River in the northern Sindh province of southern Pakistan, was the largest city of the Indus Valley Civilization until its destruction by what appears to have been a possible nuclear attack. Mainstream archaeologists give a date of circa 1900 BC for the abandonment of the city but the C's have suggested a much earlier date than this:​

Q: Now, you said Mohenjo Daro (was built by the Lizzies directly. Did they occupy this city themselves?

A: No.

Q: When was this city last inhabited continually?

A: 3065 years ago.

Q: When was it built?

A: 6092 years ago.


The famous British archaeologist Sir Mortimer Wheeler, who excavated at Mohenjo Daro in 1950s, believed the inhabitants were victims of a single massacre and suggested that the Indus civilization, whose demise was unexplained, had fallen to an armed invasion by Indo-Aryans; nomadic newcomers. However, the conclusion that many mainstream archaeologists now make is that the ‘massacre’ victims from Mohenjo Daro were simply the victims of the natural tragedy of fatal disease rather than that of human aggression.

There exists, however, a growing number of ‘alternative archaeologists’ and researchers who have not settled for theories that do not satisfactorily explain the conditions of the skeletal remains and who have sought other explanations.

One such individual is David Davenport, British Indian researcher, who spent 12 years studying ancient Hindu scripts and evidence at the site where the great city once stood. In his book Atomic Destruction in 2000 B.C. he reveals some startling findings: the objects found at the site appeared to be fused, glassified by a heat as high as 1500°C, followed by a sudden cooling. Within the city itself there appeared to be an ‘epicenter’ about 50 yards wide, within which everything was crystallized, fused, or melted, and 60 yards from the centre the bricks are melted on one side indicating a blast.

In his book Riddles of Ancient History , A. Gorbovsky reported the discovery of at least one human skeleton in the area with a level of radioactivity approximately 50 times greater than it should have been due to natural radiation. Davenport claimed that what was found at Mohenjo Daro corresponded exactly to what was seen at Nagasaki and Hiroshima in Japan.

Since there was no indication of a volcanic eruption at Mohenjo-Daro, or another disaster that could explain such features, Davenport suggested that the ancient city and its last inhabitants were obliterated by a blast from an ancient weapon, likened to an atomic bomb .

In fairness, mainstream historians and archaeologists have called into question the atomic bomb blast theory arguing that there are no original sources quoted for such claims. Moreover, despite the skeletal remains being extensively studied down to the finest details, not a single scientific paper reports on the discovery of radiation (MJF: such reports could have been blocked by the scientific establishment of course). It has also been argued that that the 15-foot (4.5m) high walls that can be seen in Mohenjo Daro today, would not have survived a nuclear blast, which is a fair point.

Given the dates the C's gave above, it seems unlikely that Mohenjo Daro may have been a victim of the nuclear war between the Celts and the Paranthas, as this would appear to have occurred much earlier in time. How the city met its demise and why there have been so few skeletons discovered still remains a mystery though. Could it have been destroyed by the Lizzies? Could there have been a mass abduction as happened to the Mayans?

Where you say:​
  • But the Indus Valley civilization (5000 BCE -1000 BCE, modern day Afghanistan, Pakistan and North Western India) has more South Indian genes (aka current Dravidian language region) as per genetic analysis
Pakistan is, of course, an Islamic state, which was created out of the partition of India in 1947 with the end of British colonial rule. This partition saw millions of people relocating due to ethnic and religious differences. Hence, many Moslems who settled in Pakistan came from other parts of India, including areas where the inhabitants may have been of Dravidian extraction. Did the genetic analysis you mentioned allow for this factor?​
 
Q: (JEEP) The Travel Channel recently featured multiple episodes relating the many bizarre and otherworldly happenings in national parks, including what we know as the Missing 411 disappearances, the existence of portals, other realms/dimensions, space/time tears, strange creatures/grays/reptilians, UFOs, underground bases and below surface human hybrids, and that fear and suffering is inflicted upon humans for food. IOW, pretty much spilled the beans. Was this intended to be a soft disclosure of sorts?

A: Not so soft from our perspective.

Q: (L) But they are getting people used to some of this weird stuff.
Hi @JEEP - Is this the show you referred to in the session - 'UFO Witness'?


Or is it this one - 'Mysteries at the National Parks'? Thanks

 
Since there was no indication of a volcanic eruption at Mohenjo-Daro, or another disaster that could explain such features, Davenport suggested that the ancient city and its last inhabitants were obliterated by a blast from an ancient weapon, likened to an atomic bomb .
If that were the case, the towers of the main complex wouldn’t standing like they are doing today. It perhaps could be exactly what happened with Tehotihuacan, Cs said that the first civilization that inhabited the city died because of famine and diseases mainly, so there could have been a biological or climate change that make the area very poor farming wise or something like that, or a virus from comet dust that could have killed millions, it could be a good question!

I was thinking on ask as well if the Lizards beings built that city, how did they did it? Through the grays? Through people manipulation? If the cosmic environment was different in the Atlantis era compare to post younger dryas, I suppose they couldn’t easily create the city directly in 3D as themselves. But I’ll try not to assume anything.
 

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