Ascorbic acid (vitamin C)

monotonic

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
That is interesting. Is it anything like the test where you put baking soda into it and see how much it bubbles? According to that test home method are not ineffective, and I don't see how the lecithin would protect the vitamin C without fully encapsulating it.
 

Kosma

Padawan Learner
lecithin protects Your stomach, not vitamin C.

I've found that on some website on topic of alleged home-made liposomals:
the ultrasonic treatment does results in a legitimate emulsion, which is absorbed much better than just regular vitamin C. However, that is just absorption into the blood, not enhanced uptake inside the cells, as with liposomes.
 

davey72

The Living Force
I just bought some vitamin c powder that was reccomended as the best, but cheapest one the health store had, and noticed that rather than being bitter it was very neutral, or bland. I then noticed that it was actually calcium ascorbate which is what brought me here through my search. If magnesium is needed to mitigate the effects of the calcium can one then use epsom salts internally for this? I ask as i am on a limited budget, and this is the only type of magnesium that i have atm.
 

Gaby

SuperModerator
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FOTCM Member
davey72 said:
I just bought some vitamin c powder that was reccomended as the best, but cheapest one the health store had, and noticed that rather than being bitter it was very neutral, or bland. I then noticed that it was actually calcium ascorbate which is what brought me here through my search. If magnesium is needed to mitigate the effects of the calcium can one then use epsom salts internally for this? I ask as i am on a limited budget, and this is the only type of magnesium that i have atm.
It will have a rather laxative effect. Use the Epsom Salts topically and don't worry about this calcium ascorbate. It is basically a non acidic vitamin C. It should be okay for making liposomal vitamin C.

For plain vitamin C supplementation, next time you can aim for ascorbic acid.
 

Christine

Jedi Council Member
Hello, :)
Reading the comments on this article: http://fr.sott.net/article/2288-Mensonges-et-verites-sur-la-vitamine-C . There are people who put links to purchase vitamin C like this: http://www.laboratoire-obst.com/acide-l-ascorbique-vitamine-c-au-detail-kg.html It's nice… but the 99% purity powder containing heavy metals : http://www.laboratoire-obst.com/media/blfa_files/fiche-technique-anoxyde-c_106_1.pdf
In my further research the composition was the same.
Just an observation
If it already has was said on the forum … all my excuses.
 

munaychasumaq

Dagobah Resident
FOTCM Member
I would like to make Liposomal Vitamin C,but to get a better result is recommended to make it with ecologic vitamin C and free GMO acid ascorbic,but the C`S say than is not going to be any problem using GMO products unless we do not consume the genetic body :huh: Some suggestions??



(PoB) I have one. It's about the GMO food. My question is: How deep the modification goes? When you have for example a GMO corn, and it will go through chemical processes, and we get alcohol or vitamin C from it. Is it affected by the modification?

A: Unless you consume the DNA bodies there should be no problem.

Q: (L) So does that mean that when products are made out of some kinds of genetically modified things that if the product is made in such a way that it excludes the DNA bodies and it just extracts a chemical or something from it, then it should be generally safe?

A: Yes

Q: (PoB) And when we eat meat of an animal that was fed with GMO corn or crops?

A: That is different!

Q: (Pierre) If we consume DNA bodies directly, it's harmful for us. The animal consumes the DNA bodies, and then we consume them. That's the same. There will be toxins, and maybe DNA migrations.

A: Yes
 

hlat

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
munaychasumaq said:
I would like to make Liposomal Vitamin C,but to get a better result is recommended to make it with ecologic vitamin C and free GMO acid ascorbic,but the C`S say than is not going to be any problem using GMO products unless we do not consume the genetic body :huh: Some suggestions??
I would get non-GMO vitamin C if I wasn't sure whether the GMO DNA made it into the vitamin C.

I use NutriBiotic Buffered Sodium Ascorbate Vitamin C.
_http://www.vitacost.com/nutribiotic-buffered-sodium-ascorbate-vitamin-c-powder-16-oz
 

zak

Jedi Council Member
munaychasumaq said:
I would like to make Liposomal Vitamin C,but to get a better result is recommended to make it with ecologic vitamin C and free GMO acid ascorbic,but the C`S say than is not going to be any problem using GMO products unless we do not consume the genetic body :huh: Some suggestions??



(PoB) I have one. It's about the GMO food. My question is: How deep the modification goes? When you have for example a GMO corn, and it will go through chemical processes, and we get alcohol or vitamin C from it. Is it affected by the modification?

A: Unless you consume the DNA bodies there should be no problem.

Q: (L) So does that mean that when products are made out of some kinds of genetically modified things that if the product is made in such a way that it excludes the DNA bodies and it just extracts a chemical or something from it, then it should be generally safe?

A: Yes

Q: (PoB) And when we eat meat of an animal that was fed with GMO corn or crops?

A: That is different!

Q: (Pierre) If we consume DNA bodies directly, it's harmful for us. The animal consumes the DNA bodies, and then we consume them. That's the same. There will be toxins, and maybe DNA migrations.

A: Yes
In this case, i think it's "not" about what the Cass said on GMO that is important, but the choice that you
make to choose, because you have the choice between what you know what is really better, a "natural" product
free of GMO or one with.
In the same time in choosing one or other, in a certain way you do tip the scale in favor
of your choice.
Also it's important what the Cass said about GMO, so... :)
 

munaychasumaq

Dagobah Resident
FOTCM Member
Thank you AK and halt for your inputs.I already get Acid Acerbic and Vitamin C free GMO.Duo to the Vitamin C Pessimal goes straight to blood stream needs the best quality of ingredients.So...I really happy to make it. :P
 

Kaigen

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
I was going to order the Ascorbic Acid from _https://inteligentvitaminc.com/ but the shipping cost from US to Japan just went twice high.
After I used doctor's Best from iHerb I and my wife caught a cold two or three times. Before with Inteligent vit.C I had nothing.
I mean I ordered it in the automatic shipping every month so it cost me $27.90 but the shipping just exploded from $12 to

United States Postal Service United States Postal Service
$23.61
First-Class Package International Service™
$50.93
Priority Mail International®
$74.93
Priority Mail Express International™

Maybe there is another way to get it?
 

Konstantin

Ambassador
Ambassador
FOTCM Member
Kaigen said:
I was going to order the Ascorbic Acid from _https://inteligentvitaminc.com/ but the shipping cost from US to Japan just went twice high.
After I used doctor's Best from iHerb I and my wife caught a cold two or three times. Before with Inteligent vit.C I had nothing.
I mean I ordered it in the automatic shipping every month so it cost me $27.90 but the shipping just exploded from $12 to

United States Postal Service United States Postal Service
$23.61
First-Class Package International Service™
$50.93
Priority Mail International®
$74.93
Priority Mail Express International™

Maybe there is another way to get it?
I fount it here _http://www.naturalhealth365store.com/ultrafine-vitamin-c-powder

Maybe the shipping will be cheaper from this site.

Added:

and this one _http://store.healing4soul.com/products/ultrafine-vitamin-c
 

Kaigen

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
Thank you Konstantin!
I checked the links and the preices are astronomical :O
The bottle is 200g not 300g and cost double $47. The shipping cost, you better seat down, are $111
I'm going to order from iHerb different product.

Konstantin said:
Kaigen said:
I was going to order the Ascorbic Acid from _https://inteligentvitaminc.com/ but the shipping cost from US to Japan just went twice high.
After I used doctor's Best from iHerb I and my wife caught a cold two or three times. Before with Inteligent vit.C I had nothing.
I mean I ordered it in the automatic shipping every month so it cost me $27.90 but the shipping just exploded from $12 to

United States Postal Service United States Postal Service
$23.61
First-Class Package International Service™
$50.93
Priority Mail International®
$74.93
Priority Mail Express International™

Maybe there is another way to get it?
I fount it here _http://www.naturalhealth365store.com/ultrafine-vitamin-c-powder

Maybe the shipping will be cheaper from this site.

Added:

and this one _http://store.healing4soul.com/products/ultrafine-vitamin-c
 

Ant22

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
Kaigen said:
Thank you Konstantin!
I checked the links and the preices are astronomical :O
The bottle is 200g not 300g and cost double $47. The shipping cost, you better seat down, are $111
I'm going to order from iHerb different product.

Konstantin said:
Kaigen said:
I was going to order the Ascorbic Acid from _https://inteligentvitaminc.com/ but the shipping cost from US to Japan just went twice high.
After I used doctor's Best from iHerb I and my wife caught a cold two or three times. Before with Inteligent vit.C I had nothing.
I mean I ordered it in the automatic shipping every month so it cost me $27.90 but the shipping just exploded from $12 to

United States Postal Service United States Postal Service
$23.61
First-Class Package International Service™
$50.93
Priority Mail International®
$74.93
Priority Mail Express International™

Maybe there is another way to get it?
I fount it here _http://www.naturalhealth365store.com/ultrafine-vitamin-c-powder

Maybe the shipping will be cheaper from this site.

Added:

and this one _http://store.healing4soul.com/products/ultrafine-vitamin-c

Hey there, I've noticed the product I use hasn't been mentioned in the thread. I'm sorry if it was and I overlooked it! I buy the Doves Farm brand, it's gluten free and GMO free too. Although they seem to have ascorbic acid without "gluten free" written on it too. I actually found in a cooking department as they market it as a bread / dough making product.

It's around £3.50-4.00 for 120g if purchased in a shop. It can also be purchased from Amazon although it seems to be a bit more expensive.

Doves Farm has a statement on their website about GMOs and they say they don't allow them in their products. https://www.dovesfarm.co.uk/food-policies/genetic-modification/?productOffset=all& They talk about no requirement for GMO labelling so I'm guessing this is an American website.

That said, my Vitamin C says it's a product of more than one country.

It does the job for me and there's definitely a noticeable "tolerance level" when I take it. I've been on the iodine protocol for a year now and if I don't take vitamin C I sometimes have trouble sleeping. This particular product helps me with that too.
 

Persej

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
In a healthy person, higher blood levels (about 600 microM/L) can be achieved using liposomal vitamin C compared with standard ascorbic acid (about 250 microM/L). We were the first to demonstrate this fact experimentally.[vi] However, the two absorption methods are different and if both are used together the resultant plasma levels are additive (something like 600 + 250 = 850 microM/L). Since ascorbic acid is much cheaper than liposomal vitamin C, it is cost effective for a healthy person to start with ascorbic acid and top up with liposomes as required.

When a person becomes ill they can absorb massive doses of standard ascorbic acid, using the dynamic flow approach. So if you are sick, taking a gram of liposomal vitamin C instead of a gram of cheap ascorbic acid will provide little extra benefit. Both will be well absorbed, and the liposome contains sodium ascorbate which is less effective. Liposomes only provide added benefit once the sick person has approached bowel tolerance levels, using standard ascorbic acid.

https://www.sott.net/article/284126-Vitamin-C-A-cure-for-Ebola
This seems to be proved in another liposomal vitamin C study from last year. In that study they used 4g of vitamin C in unencapsulated and liposomal form, and they found out that liposomal form had only a 50% increase in plasma concentration. But they haven't tested higher dosages which would probably show much bigger difference, and also a smaller difference for smaller dosages, like one gram mentioned above.

Here is the study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4915787/
 

Thebull

Dagobah Resident
FOTCM Member
Hi All,

I'm hoping for advice please. I'm back on the ascorbate/vit c as been feeling run down etc. I've done the cleanse this morning and saturation point was 50,000 mg 10 level teaspoons. I did have a heavy cold when I woke up this morning.

Now I'm not sure quite what to do next to get the full benefit. Should I continue daily moving forward on Half that amount over the duration of the day? Or should I cleanse once a week for a month then begin my daily intake as my saturation point may well go down over that time?

I want to ensure I receive the maximum benefits and unsure the best way to do that when I'm starting out. I ask as I've read conflicting info any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
 
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