Failed Trump Assassination Attempt

[Benjamin]

Social media culture. Gotta get that viral video, right? Anyway, I went through this video at slow speed and took a few (cropped) screen shots.

@ 2:08- I don't know if this is relevant but I took a shot anyway because I mentioned it in my previous post and it just kinda popped itself out here. Circled is the steeple of the church I mentioned. Just under that roof is an open space (where the bell used to be) where several people could stand. The guy recording is standing at this point.



Approximate line from the steeple to stage. Fewer trees in the way then I thought.



@ 4:12- You see the "Don't Tread On Me" flag guy walking towards the area where he records his video.



@ 5:48- Here you can see four windows open: the 2nd side window, #2, #3 and #5. This can be seen in several other posts already. In this post I said only #2 and #4 were open. But I got that wrong. #4 is not open.

There is also a group of police at the corner of the building. There is either 3 or 4 of them. One of those people might've been a 'suspect' that was being questioned.

 

[Voyageur]

I think from a tinkering and fake video viewpoint, the earliest videos are the most reliable, and the videos that came out weeks later or passed through FBI custody are less reliable.

Agree, yet one never knows what is waiting in the wings. From watching even the video above (very shaky much of the time), a great many cameras were out that day, and that is a long way from Dallas.

 

[aragorn]

@ 2:08- I don't know if this is relevant but I took a shot anyway because I mentioned it in my previous post and it just kinda popped itself out here. Circled is the steeple of the church I mentioned. Just under that roof is an open space (where the bell used to be) where several people could stand. The guy recording is standing at this point.

I'm not that skilled in using Google maps but using it I managed to take a screenshot of the tower. No problems with any closed windows, at least. It would be interesting to see drone footage from the church tower's perspective.

 

[Cosmos]

So, please disabuse me of any idea that there was something weird going on at that window that may have been related to the shooting.

I would vote for 3rd window on that building. Surely something going on there. Either triangulation or actual shooting itself. I vote for 2nd option though I believe video modified to discombobulate the timing and frames. Any way, this hypothesis is the only smoking gun we have. This raises few questions.

About the possibility of Fence blocking it or make it difficult: Made some rough calculations, I think it doesn't block it.
Here is the drone footage.
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3rd window path ( Red lines and text are mine)


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simple calculation: some reasonable assumptions
1. distance from the 3rd window to nearest fence Along the path of bullet from 3rd window : 20 ft. But if you see drone footage picture, it could easily be more.
2. Fence height is 5 ft : this is true from the video's and it is common height in US for this type of fence.
3. Shooter is 5ft from the ground. - reasonable. Even if the ground of the room is lower, they can easily increase the height for the sake of Biden and democracy In my view it is a mute point.
4. Trump's podium 4ft ( approx.) and Trump is 6.2 ft. Effectively he is 10ft from the ground.
5. 130 ft between 3rd window and trump head.

simple pen and paper straight line calculation : It goes above the fence by few feet. View attachment 99631
I know people wants to go with exact calculation. But we need to remember distance between fence to 3rd window increase or height of the shooter gun position will create more safe distance between bullet path and top of the fence.

Unfortunately, from all I've seen and calculated, I think you can only get a more or less "clear" answer to the question, of whether the fence is blocking the view of Trumps head from that "lighted" window if you use rather precise measurements. Because it all looks like a rather close call between possible and not possible from that window! I've tried to find out and calculate/estimate the most precise measurements to determine just that, also using triangulation. I try to make it as short as I can. Doing that, my results look like: doing a whole host of calculations based on those numbers (and variables up and down to account for possible errors) I'm coming to the conclusion that it seems highly unlikely that you can shoot from the lowest point of that window on Trumps head unless you shoot through the fence (which I find highly unlikely). The same applies if the sniper would position his gun barrel halfway up that window. Doesn't seem possible to me unless shot through the fence. It seems to me that you COULD only clear the fence from that window if you are extremely high up in that window, at the upper boundary of what is possible in that window. Then it seems possible (but more likely not) to clear the fence and shoot at Trumps head (but still very close to hitting the fence!).



Here are the numbers I used/gathered/calculated/measured:

Fence height measured from the local ground there: Somewhere between 180cm and 200cm (likely more around 190cm high).

Fence ground height relative to the ground height of the ground beneath Trumps podium (above sea level): Almost exactly the same.

Ground height level of Crooks building above sea level: 70cm below Fence/Trump ground level.

Distance from window to fence along bullet trajectory towards Trumps head: 24 Meters.

Distance from window to Trumps head along bullet trajectory towards Trumps head: 125 Meters.

Height of the highest part of Trumps head on stage above local ground: Stage height approximately 120cm + Trumps height 190,5cm= 3.105 meters above local ground.

Height of lowest part of window above local ground: Approximately 120cm.

Height of the middle of the window above local ground: Approximately 180cm.



Some of the sources I used to get/measure/calculate/estimate the numbers above:

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Failed Trump Assassination Attempt

xtended footage has now been uploaded by Dave / @realDJStew724: His closing remark: Looks like it was just Crooks shooting after all. Don't see how you can draw that conclusion. So I suppose a more precise conclusion is: it was just Crooks shooting... from that building. One can now...

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Failed Trump Assassination Attempt

it might be possible that Tucker Carlson will put an interview with Trump about this assassination attempt very soon, this is why he stay silent for now ? and we know how this kind of interview can add some fire so to speak to this whole thing

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Triangulation software used to calculate various different possibilities based on the numbers above (+- uncertainties/errors above and below):

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Preliminary summary of the proposed "lighted" window:

Based on several dozen calculations in which I tried to take errors and uncertainties into account, I find it highly unlikely that someone shot at Trumps head from that "lighted" window, unless he shot through the fence, which I find highly unlikely too. The fence is 24 Meters away, has relatively small openings and thick metal wire. Or if the shooter was positioned extremely high up in that window it might be possible, but there it would be a close call between possible and not; But still it is more likely not to be possible than possible IMO. The results above have to be taken with a grain of salt (somewhat) because in order to really know for sure you would need to really have reliable and precise measurements like the exact height of the window on local ground and the exact height of the fence on local ground and other measurements. Although, I think I tried to get around that problem by adjusting all numbers down and upwards to account for uncertainties. Additionally, there could be factors such as the fence at that line of sight to Trump being significantly dented down that could make shots from high up in that video more possible. Didn't see anything like that, though. Note that is only the fence problem we are talking about here, in the following video, which seems to be fairly close to the line of sight of Trumps head and the injured (and the proposed window) people might have blocked the line of sight to the window on top of the fence problem:

This one might at least "prove" that someone couldn't have shot out of that window on Trumps head. The guy filming could be the closest we have from that side looking at the window, more or less in line of sight. People seem to block aiming at Trumps head. But then again, we don't know how high Trumps head was in relation to this camera and if you would need to move a bit more left or right to get the "exact" viewing angle of at least the bullet that hit Trumps ear:

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1818703592775172424

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Really tricky. So, I'm not really certain from the above either.

Having said the above, I think there might still be a number of possibilities that shots from a real sniper indeed came from that side of the building close to that window. RedFox also thought about it (see below). There are at least three openings/vents, well above the highest point of that proposed window and close to it, through which it could very well be no problem to shoot while the fence is no issue at all. People blocking it might not be an issue here either, while still being very close to Crooks bullet trajectory. Notice that you can even see one of those vents/openings in the last quote/video above (see green circle below). The only thing that makes this less likely is that all of those vents/openings seem to be closed in Dave's footage shortly before, during and after the shots. But I imagine the FBI could have easily tampered with that footage to make it seem closed on those crucial points in the video (but that adds another layer of "would they go to that length to cover that up? Instead of just deleting that footage?"). But one vent didn't seem to be closed all the way (see below).:

The thought had crossed my mind too - could the video have been altered? Or maybe they simply wanted to check that nothing was visible. A mid possibility is - nothing is visible but they messed with the footage/sound anyway to throw off investigation.

I have a feeling when it all shakes out, that it will be right in front of our noses. One thing I have looked at on those videos is the vents as well as the hole to the bottom right of the third window (between the window and the air conditioning unit). Maybe that's implausible - but I figure it could be a possibility (even if remote). [...]

Here are the vents:



Notice that the vent with the green circle is the one that seems visible in the video two quotes above. Also notice that it seems to have been slightly opened the whole time at the bottom (before, during and after the shots!). Could a barrel shoot trough that opening? I certainly think so! Could a typical sight mounted on a professional sniper gun look through it at the same time? I'm not so sure about that!?

 

[Cosmos]

Social media culture. Gotta get that viral video, right? Anyway, I went through this video at slow speed and took a few (cropped) screen shots.

@ 2:08- I don't know if this is relevant but I took a shot anyway because I mentioned it in my previous post and it just kinda popped itself out here. Circled is the steeple of the church I mentioned. Just under that roof is an open space (where the bell used to be) where several people could stand. The guy recording is standing at this point.

Approximate line from the steeple to stage. Fewer trees in the way then I thought.

I'm not that skilled in using Google maps but using it I managed to take a screenshot of the tower. No problems with any closed windows, at least. It would be interesting to see drone footage from the church tower's perspective.

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I have a really hard time imagining a professional sniper being positioned so VERY far away to take such a shot at Trumps head, especially considering that the planners of such a conspiracy/shot would have MANY other possible areas MUCH closer to Trumps head to shoot/choose from. The trajectory of bullets shot from there wouldn't match any of the areas where we know quite certain where the bullets hit either, with the exception, maybe, of the bullet that hit Trumps ear. But even that seems to be at the very outer boundary of possibilities.

 

[Cosmos]

Here are the vents:

Notice that the vent with the green circle is the one that seems visible in the video two quotes above. Also notice that it seems to have been slightly opened the whole time at the bottom (before, during and after the shots!). Could a barrel shoot trough that opening? I certainly think so! Could a typical sight mounted on a professional sniper gun look through it at the same time? I'm not so sure about that!?

Notice that that location/idea (green circle) also has an additional advantage compared to all others proposed so far:

You can not see what is going on from the outside, before, during and after the shots. Nothing can and does change from the outside, even if you film directly looking at that (green circle) area in the crucial moments. Notice that the “lighted“ window area is also fairly close by (possibly in the same room?) and that “the action“ and especially “the light“ in that window stops just moments before the first shot. Also notice that it could explain why that weird raging guy in the gray shirt, while trying to get people from that general area in front of the building, didn’t seem to be too concerned about people standing at a specific spot on that fence (which would be more consistent with the idea that someone shot through that proposed window) since he might have known that they are not in the way of the shots, BUT could be potential witnesses of what is going on, on that side of the building, at the window and/or vent area or in the aftermath in the general area when police say/do/hear something or they see or hear something. For example witnesses hearing the shots coming from the vent, rather than the roof on top to the right where Crooks was.

 

[mrtn]

I'm not that skilled in using Google maps but using it I managed to take a screenshot of the tower. No problems with any closed windows, at least. It would be interesting to see drone footage from the church tower's perspective.
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Here is an approximation (I can't get a lower perspective than the 3rd image) :







Apart from the distance and the trees, I think the north bleachers+people could be in the way.

 

[Joe]

I'm still not sure what you mean by the bullet "passing by" the camera/mic

Not sure what other way to say it. There are 3 possible audible sounds from a supersonic bullet: 1) the explosion of the bullet cap in the gun. 2) the crack as it passes the speed of sound 3) if the bullet passes closes enough to you, you'll hear the sound of the bullet moving through the air (not necessarily in that order).

In Dave's video of the shots, I can hear 3 "whizzes" immediately after the crack and muzzle blast (which seem to be almost coincident) from each of the first 3 shots. Dave starts to move to the right after the first shot (not sure exactly when because the camera is rolling around) and you can hear his feet running for a few paces during the two seconds after the 3rd shot, and then he stops, and you hear the other 5 shots. From those, I can hear no associated "whizz" to any of them.

 

[Niall]

'Dave' on X just posted a link to video footage (not his own) that I don't recall seeing before. They guy filming starts recording a moment before the last shot, and then shows the aftermath from where he and his buddies are situated near the podium. I haven't yet watched it in detail but one of the things you see clearly is how the windows of the two storey building are, indeed, open. Another minor detail is that the opening at the second fence was created after the shooting by ramming the police car against it. For anyone with energy and time, maybe a frame by frame analysis could provide something interesting.

Huh. When I posted here about how many of the windows were open in the two-storey building behind Crooks just before the shooting began, I didn't see that window #5 was also open. Anyway, this 'Justin Bieber' footage shows clearly that it was open beforehand.

It begs another question though: We know local police snipers weren't in that window, so who was, and how did they not see Crooks on the roof just below and to the left of them?

 

[Joe]

'Dave' on X just posted a link to video footage (not his own) that I don't recall seeing before. They guy filming starts recording a moment before the last shot, and then shows the aftermath from where he and his buddies are situated near the podium. I haven't yet watched it in detail but one of the things you see clearly is how the windows of the two storey building are, indeed, open. Another minor detail is that the opening at the second fence was created after the shooting by ramming the police car against it. For anyone with energy and time, maybe a frame by frame analysis could provide something interesting.

Looks like the windows that were open in the 2 story during the shooting were:

gable end + 2, 3 and 5 of the 6 windows in the long side facing the rally (and behind and to the left of Crooks).

 

[Jacques]

Received that from a friend this morning:

See at 11minutes 26 seconds. The video was recorded 3 months ago. (Mr T is Mr Trump)

There will be some kind of assassination attempt on Mr T

during a rally, that is coming up. They will not succeed.

It looks like they're going to find whoever

who's trying to do that in good time or it will be prevented.

I don't see him being hurt or killed or anything like that.

It's like he bows down and it's taking off the scene.

But I don't see them succeed in taking him out.

The same lady has just predicted another assassination attempt on Trump.
The assassination attempt on Trump - What next? (See at 11minutes 45 seconds)

There will be another assassination attempt on Mr Trump.
I see him ... he wants to travel ... it could be by helicopter or by airplane.
It could be that something will explode but he will avoid that flight or he
will be delayed or something will happen. And the explosion comes, but he's not there ...
Like in the last second he avoids it.

 

[Cosmos]

Based on this post:

So I did just that now. See below. Note that I won't include all the sources that I used to pinpoint where exactly Trumps head (and more specifically, his ear) was at the exact moment when the bullet hit his ear. I think my approximation of where his head is in relation to the stage should be pretty accurate (but of course is probably subject to slight differences). Also note that I didn't take into account the Z axis, since I think we don't really need that at this point.

Here is what I think is the approximate most likely head/ear position Trump had at the exact moment the bullet hit his ear:


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Take a special note of the two big screens and how they likely narrow down the angles a lot more if I would exclude them. They seem to be in the way of shots. Note that where the Y axis is MIGHT be the most likely shooting direction (more or less). Note that the possible angle ranges of the bullet all encompass the known and pretty much confirmed locations of dead and wounded people. Also note, that it seems to me, considering the above, that we can almost certainly exclude the water tower for that bullet. Would need to be checked more carefully, though. Also note that it very much looks like the rooftop building is the prime candidate from where that shot came from (or somewhere near within the angle range). Also note that the screen on the left is a good approximation point because Trump was likely looking at it.

Next you see what I would consider the most extreme end of possibilities where Trumps head/ear was located at the exact moment when the bullet hit his ear.

First, his head turning dead center on the screen:


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Note that I'm almost certain that he looked quite far away from dead center of the screen. So, the above is just the very extreme end of possibilities, considering variations on the accuracy of what I concluded/saw.

Second, his head turning more away from seeing the screen dead center:

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Note that I'm almost certain that he looked quite a lot more towards the center of the screen. So, the above is just the very extreme end of possibilities, considering variations on the accuracy of what I concluded/saw.

So with all of the above, I'm now starting to be willing to bet that the bullet that hit Trumps ear came from the left side, as seen in the above. Thus, I would say that that bullet came pretty much from the general direction of the rooftop building. Now, if someone could try to find a reliable larger picture (looking STRAIGHT down from above) that encompasses the rooftop and surroundings (hopefully, including the water tower) and the opposite side of the angle range and those areas (right side in the above), we might be able to position the above correctly within that larger context and see how the red lines go through those areas.

PS: Note that all the above is under the assumption that the bullet that hit Trumps ear wasn't redirected before it hit. Also note that all of the above is solely based on the bullet that hit Trumps ear.

And this post:

In the above, we have a bit of an issue because of the angle the image is shot: In engineering, that problem is called Parallax Error. Here is what the true image without Parallax Error looks like. I added a second red line representing the injured man named Dutch also going through Trumps head. What you see here should be pretty accurate:

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Notice that the middle of both red lines pretty much exactly fits where Crooks was. The areas in between the red lines [+ maybe slightly farther left and right of that (considering errors and such)] might be where the shooter was that hit Trumps ear, if we assume that the bullet that hit Trumps ear hit Dutch and/or Copenhaver. If we assume that, I think the shooter couldn't have been much farther to the left or right of that area.

Here is what I think where the areas are located where the bullet that hit Trumps ear could have come from when extending the lines from the first post above. The areas in-between the two long green lines correspond roughly to the possible angle areas in the first post above, where I think it is most likely for that specific shot to have come from, while not taking into account where that specific bullet might have landed after it hit Trump. The short dashed black lines represent the areas that are increasingly less likely IMO, increasing in unlikeliness the further you go from the long green lines toward the long black lines:



That is why I think, if we just take that one specific bullet that hit Trumps ear into account, until the point it hit Trumps ear, that the 2-story building (left of Crooks building and behind Crooks building, in that picture) is more on the unlikely side for that specific bullet: Or more specifically, everything left of the utmost right window of that building. In other words: only the utmost right window of that 2-story building seems in the realm of good likelihood, to me, for that specific bullet.

 

[aragorn]

The trajectory of bullets shot from there wouldn't match any of the areas where we know quite certain where the bullets hit either, with the exception, maybe, of the bullet that hit Trumps ear

Well, if you'd be able to hit Trump's ear from the church tower, wouldn't that be 'enough' and all you need? Having said that, so far I do not see evidence for any shot coming from that tower, nor do we have enough information if it even would be possible. However, the church tower is an interesting 'out of the box' position. Just saying, but if a super-pro assassin shot from there, it could explain why 'they' don't mind all the video recordings and testimonies around those AGR buildings.

 

[rognaill]

I'm not that skilled in using Google maps but using it I managed to take a screenshot of the tower. No problems with any closed windows, at least. It would be interesting to see drone footage from the church tower's perspective.

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[Cosmos]

I have a really hard time imagining a professional sniper being positioned so VERY far away to take such a shot at Trumps head, especially considering that the planners of such a conspiracy/shot would have MANY other possible areas MUCH closer to Trumps head to shoot/choose from. The trajectory of bullets shot from there wouldn't match any of the areas where we know quite certain where the bullets hit either, with the exception, maybe, of the bullet that hit Trumps ear. But even that seems to be at the very outer boundary of possibilities.

Well, if you'd be able to hit Trump's ear from the church tower, wouldn't that be 'enough' and all you need? Having said that, so far I do not see evidence for any shot coming from that tower, nor do we have enough information if it even would be possible. However, the church tower is an interesting 'out of the box' position. Just saying, but if a super-pro assassin shot from there, it could explain why 'they' don't mind all the video recordings and testimonies around those AGR buildings.

That church tower is about 700 Meters away from Trumps head. Or, about 5.4 times the distance that Crooks shot from. I personally see little reason to believe that planners of such an assassination would choose a place for a professional sniper so far away, when you have, seemingly, MANY places much closer to choose from. It increases the risk of not hitting Trumps head significantly IMO, no matter how professional a sniper is and their equipment. Why would they choose such a risky spot? It also seems at the outer realm of possibilities for the specific bullet that hit Trumps ear.