A: [Spiraling] Bomb on the plane placed there prior to departure.
Q: (Pierre) Schiphol airport, again! The famous Underwear Bomber place! So, MOSSAD?
(L) Who was involved?
A: Note change in altitude for "signature".
Q: (Perceval) From 35 to 33...
(L) 33. Is 33 the clue?
A: Yes. Consortium. And who is at the top of this STS pyramid??
Q: (Perceval) Figures.
(L) Who is at the top of this pyramid? And who is at the top?
(Perceval) MOSSAD.
(L) MOSSAD? The Israelis?
A: Yes
Q: (Perceval) It seems the goal was to further demonize Putin and Russia. But was it also to distract from what's happening in Palestine?
A: Absolutely!
Q: (Pierre) Is it only coincidence... before MH 17, there was MH 370, this plane that disappeared from the same company.
Is it just coincidence that the two incidents involve the same airline company?
A: Another "signature".
Q: (Data) Why did the plane deviate from its usual course?
A: Instructed by ATC.
Q: (Perceval) Air traffic control at Schiphol?
A: Kiev.
Q: (Perceval) So, some agent...
(L) There was some control by MOSSAD in Kiev, and that whole Nazi business going on there...
(Kniall) They've been there for DECADES!
A: Yes!
Q: (L) I think that was answering Kniall there.
(Data) Why was it necessary to change the course with a bomb on board?
(L) So it would fall where it did. They had to change the course to put it in the middle of the war zone.
(Ark) The Russians were saying that the timing was a little bit miscalculated because it was supposed to come down closer to the Russian territory so that it would be easier to blame Russia.
A: Yes.
Q: (Pierre) It exploded too early.
(L) Yeah, they're so lazy, they never get anything perfect.
(Chu) Or too impatient.
A: But most people are so gullible it doesn't matter.
Q: (Perceval) You can say that again.
(Kniall) Another signature. That suggests some planning at a level behind the first Malaysian plane...
(L) No it doesn't. It's just like answering back to what happened to that first one.
(Pierre) It's like, "They removed the 370, so we'll bring down the 17!"
A: Yes
Q: (Pierre) Which is really screwed up when you think about it. The signal is strong, ya know? Okay, we make MH 370 disappear. And the only answer they have instead of behaving better is, "Okay, we bring down MH 17, and we increase even more the lies and suffering!"
(Perceval)
So these signatures are used for what? Just for fun? For whose benefit?
A: Pride, hubris, warnings to those who know.
Q: (Chu) On the session when we talked about the interpreters and stuff, the plane {that disappeared, Flight 370}, if I understood correctly, was a message...
(L) It was a warning...
(Chu) To not go too far.
(L) And they've basically answered by saying, "Up yours!"
A: Yes.
Q: (Chu) So would that mean that there really is a "law" that can prevent them from really going full-blown and starting a war?
(L) There's no law that can prevent them, no.
(Chu) They can go to war if they want to. It's just not in their interest to go too far.
(L) I don't think they think about what's in their interest. I think they're too far gone.
(Perceval) Well, hang on... The original idea was that it was some kind of bleedthrough. So, it was a natural thing. It wasn't necessarily a warning from anybody. They just interpreted it that way. They didn't see it as something was telling them, "Don't you dare!"
(L) Yeah, they don't see it that way. But it SHOULD have been a warning IF they had been paying attention.
(Perceval) As in a cause and effect kind of way. If you keep going like this, you're gonna...
(Chu) But the effect would have been that they would have seen it as, "You can't go too far here..."
(L) IF they had understood it. If they had understood that the conditions that were causing bleedthroughs and so on and so forth were a result of their actions and their behaviors globally speaking... If they had understood that, they would have said, "Hmm, weird things are happening. Let's rethink what's going on and what we're doing!" But instead, they interpreted it...
(Pierre) And they did the opposite, and they're raising the ante. They're worsening the situation.
(Perceval) What I was thinking earlier on was that, if the original idea was that they couldn't go too far, as in spark a major war with Russia by sending NATO into the Ukraine or whatever, they backed off from that because of their interpretation of the {disappearance of Flight 370}... As in, a plane went missing, it's a bit dodgy, we don't know what's going on, let's just cool it a bit...
(L) Somebody backed off...
(Perceval) Somebody backed off. So if that's true in that sense, shooting down a plane was like a Plan B or a second option that wasn't the full-scale kind of war {they may have been planning; it was on the level of mass emotional manipulation; an information war as opposed to an actual war. Because it's an all-out information war going on now because of this.
(L) Well, let me ask this: 20 years ago, on 3rd December 1994, you gave a series of short little prophecies. Being so long ago, they kind of hit to the side, but one of the first was, "Ukraine explosion; chemical or nuclear". The second one was: "Hawaii crash; aviation, possibly involving military." And those two were juxtaposed next to each other, and there was a semicolon and period, and then the next sequence began. The next sequence was a series of earthquakes in California, destruction of California, Mount Lassen, several other volcanoes along the west coast of the US erupting, the sea floor subsiding, and so forth.
{3 Dec 1994: Ukraine explosion; chemical or nuclear. Hawaii crash; aviation, possibly involving military. More California seismic activity after 1st of year: San Diego, San Bernardino, North Bakersfield, Barstow: all are fracture points. Hollister, Palo Alto, Imperial, Ukiah, Eureka, Point Mendocino, Monterrey, Offshore San Luis Obispo, Capistrano, Carmel: these are all stress points of fracture in sequence. “Time” is indefinite. Expect gradual destruction of California economy as people begin mass exodus. Also, Shasta erupts; Lassen activity. Ocean floor begins to subside.}
Getting to my question: Was that “Hawaii crash” a reference to what has happened here recently, like for example with MH 370 and MH 17? Even though the original was Hawaii, I would say Malaysia is in the Pacific more or less, so it's kind of sideways... Was that a reference to these events, even that far in advance?
A: Yes.
Q: (Perceval) So that was seen that far in advance as a marker, as a major event. There's been a lot of stuff that has happened since then that they didn't mention. So, why did that one stand out 20 years ago? Why did this event stand out so strongly? Are we all screwed?
A: Interpretation is key. The elements here are metaphoric. That far in advance it can only be approximate. However, note the confluence of major elements in terms of similarity.
Q: (L) So, Ukraine obviously has been known in advance as a flashpoint, and there is some awareness of... Could it be said that these sorts of things were already in the minds of some planners that far in advance?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) So, they change or shift their plans...
(Perceval) When you say planners...
(L) Do you mean human planners?
A: And 4D STS.
Q: (Perceval) The ones who jump around in time and stuff.
(L) So they change things to confuse things. Well, they once said something about how they can change things. They specifically said something about that: moving back and forth in time.
{7 Jan 1996: The forces at work here are far too clever to be accurately anticipated so easily. You never know what twists and turns will follow, and they are aware of prophetic and philosophical patternings and usually shift course to fool and discourage those who believe in fixed futures.}
