Vladimir Putin in the Cassiopaean transcripts

Vladimir Putin and Russia in the transcripts, January to April 2023
In the excerpts from the first months of 2023, I have included all excerpts about Russia, even if they do not mention Putin explicitly. The reason is that since Vladimir Putin is the president of Russia, what concerns Russia could be within his sphere of interest.

Topics include the mysterious deaths of several high-profile Russians, that the US has less control and less power than before Putin began to make moves to change this, comments on UFO sightings in Russia, the properties of the salt mines in Soledar, abduction type events in the conflict, the "secret government", the possibility of revelations about 9/11, the intentions of the PTB to use Finland against Russia, the AI capabilities of Russia and China, the help that Russia and China give to other countries with regard to the USA/CIA if these other countries are interested, that Putin wasn't KGB for nothing, and last a comment on the currently sad state of affairs for paranormal research in Russia.

Regarding the death of some high-profile Russians - Spy craft 101
Session 14 January 2023
(Niall) I have questions. Many high-profile Russians have died under mysterious circumstances recently. Are some or even most of them victims of deliberate targeting?

A: Some.

Q: (Niall) Who or what is behind this?

A: Your favorite alphabet agency.

Q: (L) CIA?

A: Yes

Q: (Niall) How come?

A: Confusion in some cases. Removing potential threats or influence. This is spy craft 101!

Q: (L) You could have figured that out, Niall. Next question?

(Niall) Well, it's 24 seriously VIP people. The main conspiracy theory or explanation of any kind in any media is that Putin is doing it to traitors within. No one has suggested that it's...

A: Not Putin!

Q: (Niall) Okay.

(Joe) They wouldn't suggest it anyway, but historically, that kind of stuff goes on all the time. They take out each other's assets. Everybody does it.

(L) I think people are...

(Joe) It ramped up now because of the conflict and there's more at stake.

(Niall) It's like two dozen CEOs or similarly high-level people falling off balconies and stuff. Down staircases... Some are murdered or in murder-suicide pacts. Whole families killed.

(L) That's crazy.

(PoB) Most of them were connected to the energy industry: gas, oil, and so on.

(Joe) Strategic industries, yeah.
To give a couple of other examples that have happened while Vladimir Putin has been President and which have been used to defame both him and Russia, there was the murder of Boris Nemtsov:
Session 14 March 2015
(Perceval) Did the CIA or some agent of the USA kill Nemtsov?

A: Yes.

Q: (Perceval) They're getting desperate!
And the Skripal case in the UK:
Session 14 April 2018
Q: (Joe) Were those Skripal people poisoned with some kind of nerve agent?

A: Yes. But not as advertised and ineptly done!

Q: (Joe) So who did it?

A: Your favorite spies!

Q: (Joe) Figures. The Israelis, yes?

(L) Probably.

A: Yes

Q: (L) Did the Israelis do it without the cooperation of the British spy organizations?

A: Yes

Q: (L) And they set it up to make look like Russia did it just to create all of this hostility?

A: Yes


Q: (Pierre) The organizations and officials in the UK, they believe it. They're not in the plan.

(Joe) That's the best way to do it. You just drop it in their laps, and they just react the way they're told to react.

(Chu) And that explains why they're still alive because if they had wanted to make them shut up easily, they would be dead somehow. But they're not.

(L) Yeah, if they had done it, they would have killed them in the hospital.

(Joe) That's the Israelis. They're stirring the pot against Russia behind the scenes, but directly with Russia they're all smiles and, "Russia's our friend!"
Returning to Session 14 January 2023, there was:
Recall the control that the USA had over Russia until Putin began to make moves to change this
Q: (T.C.) The C's once said that 'all is one' regarding world governments. Is this still the case?

A: Less now than then. Recall the control that the USA had over Russia until Putin began to make moves to change this.
The control that the USA had over Russia might be reflected in the following excerpt about the 9/11 event:
Session 24 August 2002
Q: (A) Right. But there are other spy satellites; some other countries may know that this story with flight 77 crashing at the Pentagon is...

A: At those levels, there is only one "Master."

Q: (L) Those levels? What levels?

A: Levels that can hand down orders to bury or suppress.

Q: (L) So you're saying that even, for example French, Russian, Chinese satellites that might have noticed something, that there is some level of control that can order such information to be buried or suppressed...(A) And the order will be respected? Why?

A: Those who are at that level have been bought and paid for by both giving knowledge of upcoming cataclysmic vents, and promised survival and positions of power after. It is not difficult to realize the there is a body of such types in positions of power already. Power is not only attractive to such types, they are the kind most easily corrupted by it.

Q: (SB) So they've been bought and paid for by...(L) Telling them what's going to happen, telling them this is the only way to survive and that they will be helped to survive. And then, telling them that once it's all over with, they can be in charge. Well, if they were going to kill the people anyway, who were in Flight 77, why didn't they just simply use this Flight 77 to crash into the Pentagon?

A: Because the damage would not have been controllable otherwise.
The topic of 9/11 comes up later, but next is:
UFO sightings in Russia
Session 14 January 2023
Q: (Adobe) What if anything was shot down over the Rostov region in Russia (UFO?)

(L) When?

(Niall) Last week. They said it was a drone, but there were rumors on the ground that there was a strange light.

A: UFO was not shot down but was observing.
On February 2, there was a sighting near Volgograd, the same day as Putin visited the city and held a speech. See more in UFO sightings in Russia.

Salt is cleansing: a comment on the salt mines in Soledar
(Joe) Is there anything significant about the salt mines in Soledar that the Russians just captured other than being deep salt mine tunnels?

A: Not especially. Though some have been used for hiding. Not useful for occult practices due to the salt which is cleansing.

Q: (Joe) So no aliens?

A: No

Q: (Joe) No chupacabras?

A: No

Q: (Joe) For the same reason: they don't like salt.

A: Yes
The above also reads as if salt mines can protect against some types of high strangeness, but on the surface it is different:
Abduction-type events going on in this conflict
Session 25 February 2023
Q: (Joe) [...] Are the official Russian stats about the number of Ukrainian soldiers who've been killed or injured so far accurate?

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) Have there been any abduction-type events going on in this conflict like they talked about in Vietnam?

A: Yes

Q: (L) So they're abducting soldiers off the battlefield?

A: Yes


Q: (L) That's creepy.

(Joe) They talked about abducting them from Vietnam, reanimating them, and putting them back in different places. [...]
For more on this kind of abduction, see The Wave Chapter 21: Roswell Revisited or Shades of the X-Files.
After Putin, the Russian Federation will have another president
(PoB) Will there be any next president of the Russian Federation as we know it after Putin?

A: Yes
The above goes with the statement from last year:
Session 17 July 2022
Q: (Nathan) Will Dmitry Medvedev be the next Russian President?

A: Most likely.
Returning to Session 25 February 2023, there was a question about why the secret government does not use superior technology to destroy Russia., but:
Who said that the "secret government" was aligned with that goal?
Q: (seek10) Forum member Aragorn wants to ask: "You've said that the Secret Government has technology that is thousands of years ahead of what exists publicly. If Russia is such a threat to the plans of the PTB, why don't they use this superior technology to destroy Russia?"

A: Who said that the "secret government" was aligned with that goal?

Q: (L) So I guess they're not necessarily aligned with that goal. And is the secret government human?

A: No


Q: (Joe) If they destroy Russia, how are they gonna have a war? Look at the nice war they're having as a result of provoking Russia!

(L) You couldn't get all the suffering out of it. You've gotta wring it dry! Misery, suffering, torment...
9/11 revelations from Russia? When they are sure they will be believed
Q: (Regulattor) In a session about 9/11, it was said that Russians have knowledge and evidence of who or what struck the Pentagon and other related places. Would Russians in the not-too-distant future make this knowledge available to the wider public, thus making the deep state more visible to Western populations?

A: When they are sure they will be believed.
If Russia at the moment would not have much success with 9/11 revelations, it is not the only topic the West does not take serious. Since the beginning of 2022 there have been reports from Russia, about the dual use bio-research work in Ukraine, as well as nuclear threats, see this post Jul 7, 2022, the last half of this post: Aug 15, 2022, and the following Sep 3, 2022, Oct 2, 2022, Oct 27, 2022, Nov 26, 2022, Apr 18, 2023, Apr 19, 2023, and Apr 19, 2023, but except for a few instances of reporting, including by Tucker Carlson, it has been largely ignored. China however is informed, see Mar 17, 2022 and Mar 18, 2022. Perhaps the presentations from Russia and China have been more useful for countries in Asia, Africa and South America than for countries strongly aligned with the US.

Regarding the possibility of revelations about 9/11 coming from Russia, there is also this consideration:
Don't hang your hopes on "revelations"
Session 22 July 2010
A: There are a few more steps before an ice age. Some of them not very pleasant.

Q: (Perceval) Earthquakes, volcanoes, economic collapse...(Burma Jones) Mass starvation. (Perceval) Plague. (L) Crop failure.

A: All of those and more.

Q: (Andromeda) Great! (Perceval) On that topic, is one of those steps that could happen to cause a revolution...

(L) Well, actually they're talking about steps to an ice age, not steps to a revolution.

(Ailén) They said before the revolution would start, people would only see the oil as a reason to start a revolution.

(Perceval) Yeah, I asked if the ace age was going to cause a revolution. (L) I don't think there's going to be a lot left to have a revolution once the ice age has begun! {laughter} Okay, so all that stuff like crop failure is going to lead up to the ice age.

(L) I would say that if there were crop failures, economic collapse, and so on, that those things would bring about a revolution and while you're in the middle of the revolution THEN everything goes kaflooey. That would be my guess.

A: Yes

Q: (Perceval) So they said "all of those and more". Could one of those "more" things be any revelations about 9/11?

A: That may come too, but don't hang your hopes on "revelations". Rather it will be a change in perception by the public.

Q: (L) Okay. Well, all of that is very, very cheerful. So what are we supposed to do?

A: Continue to spread the truth and program that will unite all people of good will.

Q: (L) So uniting people of good will...

A: Remember we once told you that people would unite against the "invasion" at the time just before the earth changes?
Moving forward to the latest session:

The PTB will try to turn Finland into a battleground against Russia - Not with great success, however
Session 8 April 2023
(Aragorn) Finland has now become a NATO member, and it has one of the more capable armies in Europe. Will the PTB try to turn Finland into a battleground against Russia?

A: Yes. Not with great success, however.
To other countries in BRICS and BRICS plus, Russia/China have given tech and intel assurance of backup if needed
Q: (annp) Are the countries recently joining BRICS and BRICS plus less afraid of the CIA now?

A: Yes

Q: (annp) Have Russia slash China given them some anti-CIA pesticides? [laughter]

A: Not exactly, but have given tech and intel assurance of backup if needed.

Q: (L) So they let 'em know that they would help them with tech and intel if they need it.
The level of Russia and China's AI capabilities compared to the west - about equal but different philosophy and approach
(Ryan) The abilities of a new AI language model, GPT-4, seem very impressive. Some years ago, Putin emphasized the importance of AI in the development of societies. What is the level of Russia and China's AI capability compared to the west?

A: About equal but different philosophy and approach.
Putin wasn't KGB for nothing
(Keit) Are there any current attempts by the clandestine sources or agencies in the West to remote view or utilize any other similar means to spy on Putin or other high ranking officials?

A: They can try. Putin wasn't KGB for nothing.
Very little paranormal and metaphysical phenomena research being utilized by FSB or other agencies in Russia, unfortunately
Q: (Keit) Is there any current paranormal or metaphysical phenomena research going on in Russia, similar to experiments that were done during the Soviet times?

A: Small.

Q: (Keit) If so, is this being utilized by FSB or other agencies in Russia?

A: Very little, unfortunately.
There can be little doubt there are people talented for paranormal and metaphysical work in Russia. Therefore, if this area is not being nourished, explored and developed, then the talents of these people remain largely ignored, and that can be said to be unfortunate. However, if houses, hospitals, schools and roads can be planned and established in a short time, why not groups, associations and research networks?
 
Vladimir Putin and Russia in the transcripts, January to April 2023
In the excerpts from the first months of 2023, I have included all excerpts about Russia, even if they do not mention Putin explicitly. The reason is that since Vladimir Putin is the president of Russia, what concerns Russia could be within his sphere of interest.

Topics include the mysterious deaths of several high-profile Russians, that the US has less control and less power than before Putin began to make moves to change this, comments on UFO sightings in Russia, the properties of the salt mines in Soledar, abduction type events in the conflict, the "secret government", the possibility of revelations about 9/11, the intentions of the PTB to use Finland against Russia, the AI capabilities of Russia and China, the help that Russia and China give to other countries with regard to the USA/CIA if these other countries are interested, that Putin wasn't KGB for nothing, and last a comment on the currently sad state of affairs for paranormal research in Russia.

Regarding the death of some high-profile Russians - Spy craft 101
Session 14 January 2023

To give a couple of other examples that have happened while Vladimir Putin has been President and which have been used to defame both him and Russia, there was the murder of Boris Nemtsov:
Session 14 March 2015

And the Skripal case in the UK:
Session 14 April 2018

Returning to Session 14 January 2023, there was:
Recall the control that the USA had over Russia until Putin began to make moves to change this

The control that the USA had over Russia might be reflected in the following excerpt about the 9/11 event:
Session 24 August 2002

The topic of 9/11 comes up later, but next is:
UFO sightings in Russia
Session 14 January 2023

On February 2, there was a sighting near Volgograd, the same day as Putin visited the city and held a speech. See more in UFO sightings in Russia.

Salt is cleansing: a comment on the salt mines in Soledar

The above also reads as if salt mines can protect against some types of high strangeness, but on the surface it is different:
Abduction-type events going on in this conflict
Session 25 February 2023

For more on this kind of abduction, see The Wave Chapter 21: Roswell Revisited or Shades of the X-Files.
After Putin, the Russian Federation will have another president

The above goes with the statement from last year:
Session 17 July 2022

Returning to Session 25 February 2023, there was a question about why the secret government does not use superior technology to destroy Russia., but:
Who said that the "secret government" was aligned with that goal?

9/11 revelations from Russia? When they are sure they will be believed

If Russia at the moment would not have much success with 9/11 revelations, it is not the only topic the West does not take serious. Since the beginning of 2022 there have been reports from Russia, about the dual use bio-research work in Ukraine, as well as nuclear threats, see this post Jul 7, 2022, the last half of this post: Aug 15, 2022, and the following Sep 3, 2022, Oct 2, 2022, Oct 27, 2022, Nov 26, 2022, Apr 18, 2023, Apr 19, 2023, and Apr 19, 2023, but except for a few instances of reporting, including by Tucker Carlson, it has been largely ignored. China however is informed, see Mar 17, 2022 and Mar 18, 2022. Perhaps the presentations from Russia and China have been more useful for countries in Asia, Africa and South America than for countries strongly aligned with the US.

Regarding the possibility of revelations about 9/11 coming from Russia, there is also this consideration:
Don't hang your hopes on "revelations"
Session 22 July 2010

Moving forward to the latest session:

The PTB will try to turn Finland into a battleground against Russia - Not with great success, however
Session 8 April 2023

To other countries in BRICS and BRICS plus, Russia/China have given tech and intel assurance of backup if needed

The level of Russia and China's AI capabilities compared to the west - about equal but different philosophy and approach

Putin wasn't KGB for nothing

Very little paranormal and metaphysical phenomena research being utilized by FSB or other agencies in Russia, unfortunately

There can be little doubt there are people talented for paranormal and metaphysical work in Russia. Therefore, if this area is not being nourished, explored and developed, then the talents of these people remain largely ignored, and that can be said to be unfortunate. However, if houses, hospitals, schools and roads can be planned and established in a short time, why not groups, associations and research networks?

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Excerpts about Russia and Vladimir Putin, May to July 2023
Since the last post, there have been three more sessions. Below are excerpts relating to Russia, (mostly) and President Vladimir Putin (some). In May, there was a question about the karmic role of Russia, while the discussion in the session from June concerned the situation that developed around some people from the Wagner PMC. The session, at the end of July, included questions and comments about what the Russian leaders might know about disturbing topics like the depravity of the Western elites, and the roles played in world affairs by very smart psychopathic people whose home base is not the surface of the planet. At the end of the latest session, there was an update on the Skripal case.

What is the karmic role of Russia? - Replay of Atlantis
Session 13 May 2023
(Ze Germans) What is the karmic role of Russia?

A: Replay of Atlantis.


Q: (L) When you say replay of Atlantis, are you saying that Russia is playing the part of Atlantis?

A: No. The adversary.

Q: (L) So in other words, the one that defeated Atlantis when it attempted to take over the world?

A: Yes.
As a comment to the above excerpt, there was in Session 29 July 2023, a further explanation:
Read The Illiad and Odyssey for clues
(Ze Germans) If Russia's karmic role is an adversary of Atlantis, who was playing this role back then before the final destruction of Atlantis?

A: Same locale, different names. Read The Iliad and Odyssey for clues.


Q: (L) Well, supposedly, according to Plato, it was the Athenians against Atlantis. But there were no Athenians until late in modern history. So maybe that name was carried forward from an even more ancient history that was further north. I hope y'all are following my little excerpts from “Horns of Moses” that I've been putting on Ark's blog because I kind of talk about that a little bit. Okay.

Wagner PMC and Prigozhin - the Russian government allowed this situation to come to a head
On the 24th of June there was a mutiny in Russia, at the session the same evening, the events were fresh in the mind of everyone and no introduction was needed. Now a few months later, a few headlines from SOTT may assist to create the context:
And the excerpts:
Session 24 June 2023
Q: (Jefferson) Some say it's a coup or a real protest against the Russian government or just a show. What is behind the behavior and speech of Prigozhin?

A: Flushing out traitors.


Q: (L) Are you suggesting that Prigozhin is one of the traitors?

A: Yes.
Q: (Joe) Niall, didn't you have a question about Prigozhin?

(Niall) Yeah, it's kind of the major issue today. Did the Russian government allow this situation today to come to a head like this?

(Joe) To flush out traitors.

(Niall) Was it done intentionally?

A: Yes.


Q: (Niall) So they were not surprised by this.

A: No.

Q: (Niall) They saw this coming.

(Andromeda) It's the first thing I thought.

(Joe) Yeah, so they knew obviously that there was a history of dissent within Wagner, and they decided to just let it develop up, give them enough rope, basically, to hang themselves...

(Andromeda) And bring all their friends too. [Laughter]

(Joe) "Bring all your traitor friends with you, huh?" Let them talk it up. Let them feel like they could get some action. And then people get emboldened, others join in. "Yeah, let's go, it's working!" But was it inspired in any way by external support, Prigozhin or anybody within Wagner or associated with Wagner being connected to the Ukrainians, and thereby the CIA or the West?

A: No.

Q: (Joe) It was just kind of personal hubris and greed.

A: Yes.

Q: (Joe) PoB told me that Russians don't like money though. [Laughter] Is that true, that Russians don't like money?

A: No.
For a couple of the excerpts in the next session, I chose to first present the essential point about Vladimir Putin or Russia and then provide the context, which are very long. In this manner, it is easier to maintain a red thread and string the excerpts together.

"[P]ower center in Russia" partly dismantled by Putin
Based on a statement in an early transcript, there was a question about a "power center in Russia". We will return to what that was all about in just a moment, but first the short exchange from Session 29 July 2023
(Ze Germans) What is the nature of the power center in Russia, which is symbolized by a bear as described previously?

A: Partly dismantled. Now in opposition to NWO.
[...]
Q: (L) Alright. Yeah, because when we asked that question, it seems to me that they were saying that there was something in Russia that was part of this beast empire thing, and that would be, I think, the Westerners who were... Maybe the oligarchs who were Western leaning and so forth, and they were very powerful at the time.

(Niall) So, I guess it's Putin who has partly dismantled it...

(L) Yeah. And, and Putin has dismantled that structure?

A: Yes


Q: (L) At least partly, I'm sure.
The context for "a power center in Russia" is a passage in Session 16 October 1994, part of a long commentary on expressions in Chapter 13 of The Book of Revelation, that begins with a discussion of the number 666, from verse 18, before moving onto the strange animals that are described in the same chapter.
Q: (L) On the subject of the 666, I was given an insight into this several years ago as to another meaning of it, is that interpretation also correct?

A: Maybe. VI is 6 in Roman Numerals. S was 6 in ancient Egypt. A was 6 in Sanskrit. VISA, see, is 666. Interesting that to travel for extended periods one needs a "visa" also, yes?
Note: In this article 666 – The Mark of the Beast?, Laura has included images of the ancient alphabets along with the same excerpt as included in this selection.

The session continues:
Q: (L) The other parts of chapter 13... Verse one says, "I stood on the sandy beach I saw a beast coming up out of the sea with ten horns and seven heads. On his horns he had ten royal crowns and blasphemous titles on his heads..." What does this verse mean?

A: Many meanings. Monetary control. 10 represents universal control of whole units of value.

Q: (L) So, the ten horns represent units of value, so we are talking about money here. What are the blasphemous titles on his heads?

A: In God we trust.

Q: (L) "And the beast that I saw resembled a leopard..."

A: New World Order.


Q: (L) "And to him the dragon gave his might and power and great dominion..." Who is the dragon?

A: Read again please.

Q: (L) "And the beast I saw resembled a leopard..." What does the leopard signify?

A: Leopard is fast moving and distinctly patterned.

Q: (L) "His feet were like those of a bear..." what do the feet represent?

A: Russia.

Q: (L) Why are the feet like those of a bear?

A: Hidden power center in that geographic location.

Q: (L) What nature this power center?

A: Same as USA. Feet are not so easily seen.

Q: (L) Does this mean that Russia and the US are secretly united?

A: Under same control.


Q: (L) Are these the Lizards?

A: At the root.
Below is the rest of the commentary, which may also add significance to the statement that the karmic role of Russia is a replay of Atlantis, as brought out in Session 13 May 2023, as well as connecting to the concept of alien, or at least underground influences, which are mentioned in excerpts a little later in the 29 July session.
Q: (L) "His mouth was like that of a lion..." What does mouth represent and why is it like a lions?

A: Noisy and boastful.

Q: (L) Who is noisy and boastful and how is this going to manifest?

A: Economic power structure. Lion is powerful and commands attention by roaring. Who has been speaking loudly about a new world order?

Q: (L) The United States?

A: Close. Elements of same.


Q: (L) "One of his heads seemed to have a deadly wound, but his death stroke was healed and the whole earth went after the beast in amazement and admiration..." What does it mean that one of his heads seemed to have a deadly wound?

A: Aliens.

Q: (L) The aliens will seem to be a deadly wound to the Beast?

A: Initially.

Q: (L) "But his death stroke was healed, and the whole earth went after the Beast with amazement and admiration..." What does this mean?

A: Initial fear gives way to worship and admiration.

Q: (L) "They fell down and gave homage to the dragon because he had bestowed on the beast all of his dominion and authority..." Who is this dragon?

A: World Body Politic.

Q: (L) And who is this Beast?

A: New World Order aka Brotherhood aka Lizzies aka antichrist.


Q: (L) "The Beast was given the power of speech uttering boastful and blasphemous words and was given freedom to exert his authority and exercise his will during 42 months..."

A: Timing is open. Power of speech is self explanatory in terms of audio and video media.

Q: (L) "And he opened his mouth to speak slanders against God blaspheming his name and his abode even vilifying those who live in heaven..." Does this mean that this group, this beast are going to...

A: Disseminate disinformation with respect to encouraging worship, loyalty and obedience to antichrist.

Q: (L) "He was further permitted to wage war on God's holy people and to overcome them and power was given him to extend his authority over every tribe and people and every tongue and nation..." Does this means trials and tribulations of those who refuse to submit?

A: No. See previous answer.

Q: (L) "And all the inhabitants of the earth will fall down in admiration... everyone whose name has not been recorded from the foundation of the world in the Book of Life of the Lamb that was slain in sacrifice from the foundation of the world..." What are "those whose names are recorded in the Book of Life... what is the Book of Life?

A: Supercomputer.

Q: (L) The Book of Life of the Lamb... everyone whose name has not been recorded... it is saying that the people who are going to worship the Beast are names that have not been recorded... does that mean that there is a supercomputer recording the names of those who do not worship the beast?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) And who has this supercomputer?

A: Beast. All names will be recorded as being either obedient or disobedient.


Q: (L) Who is this "Lamb?"

A: Beast.

Q: (L) "If anyone is able to hear let him listen: whoever leads into captivity will himself go into captivity; if anyone slays with the sword, with the sword will he be slain... herein is the call for the patience and fidelity of the saints (God's people)... "Who are God's people?

A: All.

Q: (L) What does it mean: "Whoever leads into captivity will go into captivity?"

A: Follow the leader.

Q: (L) If they follow the leader they will become captive and if they fight with the leader they will be killed?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) "Then I saw another Beast rising up out of the land; he had two horns like a lamb and he spoke like a dragon..." What does this signify?

A: Other faces of the same entity.

Q: (L) What does it mean that he had two horns like a lamb? A lamb doesn't have horns. Why does it say he has horns?

A: Confusion by contradiction.

Q: (L) And what does the lamb represent?

A: Same face of the Beast.

Q: (L) What does it mean he "spoke like a dragon"??

A: Same.

Q: (L) "He exerts all the power and right of control as the former beast in his presence and causes the earth and those who dwell upon it to exalt and deify the beast whose deadly wound was healed and worship him..." Well, it seems to say that there is a second beast that is different from the first beast but you are saying that it is just another face of the beast...

A: Yes. Look at it this way, aliens one face; God another; government another et cetera.

Q: (L) Did you mean to say that God was another face of the beast?

A: As represented by religion.

Q: (L) "He performs great signs, startling miracles, even making fire fall from the sky to the earth in men's sight.." What does that mean?

A: Aliens perform "miracles".

Q: (L) And what is the "image" of the Beast?

A: Aliens.

Q: (L) What does it mean to have been wounded by the sword and still live?

A: Perceived as scary then Godlike.

Q: (L) "And he was permitted to impart the breath of life into the Beast's image so that the statue of the beast could actually talk and to cause all to be put to death that would not bow down and worship the image of the beast." What does this mean?

A: Total control once deception is complete.

Q: (L) "Compels all alike, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to be marked with an inscription on their right hand or on their foreheads...." What is this inscription?

A: Visa ID number.

Q: (L) Is this going to be actually physically put on our bodies?

A: Encoded.

Q: (L) How? Is that what the aliens do when they abduct people?

A: No.

Q: (L) How is it going to be done?

A: Stamped.

Q: (L) By what technical means?

A: Electronic encoding. A series of numbers.

Q: (L) Are they going to put these on our skins or imbed them in the skin on our heads or hand...?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Does that mean that you will have to place your hand on an electronic scanner in order to conduct any type of monetary transaction?

A: Precisely.

Q: (L) Okay, it says: "Here is room for discernment, a call for the wisdom of interpretation, let him who has intelligence, penetration, insight enough calculate the number of the Beast, for it is a human number, the number of a certain man, his number is 666. What does this mean?

A: Visa as explained previously. Everyone will get their own number and it will be a Visa number, the number of the Beast.

Q: (L) "Then I looked and Lo! the lamb stood on Mount Zion and with him 144,000 men who had his name and his father's name inscribed on their foreheads..." What does that mean?

A: ID. The Lamb is the Leadership council of the world bank. Many will think they are taking the "mark" of God when actually being marked by the Beast.

Q: (L) "And I heard a voice from Heaven like the sound of great waters and like the rumbling of might thunder and the voice I heard seemed like the music of harpists accompanying themselves on their harps..." What is this voice from heaven and the sound like great waters and mighty thunder?

A: The return of Christ.

Q: (L) "And they sing a new song... No one could learn to sing that song except the 144,000 who had been ransomed from the earth... you said the 144,000 are the leaders of the world bank and here it says they have been ransomed from the earth at the coming of Christ... it says the 144,000 have not defiled themselves by relations with women for they are pure as virgins. These are they who follow the Lamb wherever he goes...they have been ransomed..."

A: Symbolism added later and this is not entirely accurate point. The symbols have been mixed. Tends to encourage elitism and divisiveness.

Q: (L) Are the 144,000 good guys or bad guys as we would term them?

A: Both. But they are ones who have supreme knowledge.

Q: (L) Are these human beings?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) There will be 144,000 people on the earth who have supreme knowledge?

A: Approximately.

Q: (L) Now, this 144,000, are we among that number? Just curious.

A: Maybe.

Q: (L) "No lie was found to be upon their lips for they are blameless, spotless, untainted without blemish. And I saw another angel flying in midair with an eternal gospel to tell to the inhabitants of the earth, every race and tribe and people, and he cried with a mighty voice: Revere God and give him glory, for the hour of his judgment has arrived, fall down before him, pay him homage and adoration and worship him who created heaven and earth and the sea and the springs of water..." What does this tell us?

A: Added later by questionable source.

Q: (L) "Then a second angel followed declaring: Fallen, fallen is Babylon the Great, she who made all nations drink of the wine of her passionate unchastity..." Who is Babylon and what does it mean she has fallen?

A: Same as previous answer.

Q: (L) "Another angel followed, a third, saying with a mighty voice saying whoever pays homage to the beast and permits his stamp to be put on his forehead or on his hand he too shall have to drink of the wine of God's indignation and wrath poured undiluted into the cup of his anger, and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the lamb..."

A: Disinformation. Intended to create fear and resistance so that the aliens can feed off of these emotions.

Q: (L) "Again I looked and lo! I saw a white cloud and sitting on the cloud one resembling a son of man with a crown of gold on his head and a sharp scythe in his hand..." Is that further additions?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) "Another angel came out of the temple saying with a mighty voice to the one sitting on the cloud: put in your scythe and reap for the hour has arrived to gather the harvest for the earth's crop is fully ripened..."

A: More fear based disinformation.

Q: (L) Now, I have compared certain passages of Revelations to the work of Immanuel Velikovsky, were those sections accurate in what they describe?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) And those are events that will transpire after the Lizzies have done their thing, after the Visa is in place, and before or after Christ returns?

A: Before.

Q: (L) So the cluster of comets is going to come before the return of Christ??

A: Yes. But return is just one event not the whole thing.

Q: (L) Is there going to be massive disruption on the planet and maybe a lot of people transitioning out of the body simultaneously because of the interaction of this cluster of comets and the earth.

A: Close.

Q: (L) And, shortly following this event, Christ will return?

A: As part of the whole.

Q: (L) That is going to be part of the cluster of comets activity?

A: After.

Q: (L) What is Christ going to do after he returns?

A: Teach.

Q: (L) How many people are going to be on the planet to receive this teaching?

A: Open.

Q: (L) May we assume there will be six billion?

A: Assume as you please.

Q: (L) You keep saying that the return of Christ is a part of the whole as though there is some important thing that I am missing the question to discover. Consider that question asked... tell me what it is I am missing, please.

A: Obvious if you have been paying attention.

Q: (L) And that is...?

A: The transition to 4th density.

Q: (L) Is the transition to 4th density going to happen before the comets or after?

A: After.

Q: (L) Is the interaction of the comets and the planet earth going to....

A: Precede the transition.


Q: (L) Is it going to generate this change in some way?

A: No.

Q: (L) It's not going to have anything to do with electromagnetic interactions which would heighten the atomic vibrations of the planet?

A: No.

Q: (L) So, the comets are going to make a mess of things and then the transition is going to come as Christ comes?

A: Before.

Q: (L) The transition will happen and we will all be standing around glazed in the eyes or whatever, wondering what to do with ourselves, because we are finding ourselves in a new estate we have not been in before, and then Christ comes?

A: More or less.

Q: (L) Now, what is going to happen after Christ comes back and everything is sort of straightening out and he is teaching... is everybody on the planet going to be gathered together in one place to receive these teachings?

A: No.

Q: (L) Is he going to travel around and teach?

A: Technology.

Q: (L) He will teach via the media?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) And we are still going to have access to our media, television and radio and so forth?

A: Some.

Q: (L) Are some people at that point in time or just prior to this transition, going to leave in large groups with the Lizzies?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are there going to be large groups of people moving into domed cities on the planet living in "cahoots" with the Lizzies?

A: Close.

Q: (L) In other words there may be areas of Lizzie control on the planet and areas under the control of Christ?

A: Christ does not control.
This above early session resonates quite well with the later excerpts from the July 29 session, like the following:

[T]he depravity of their Western "partners"-They can hardly believe it
Q: (Joe) Do Putin and the members of the Russian government know the extent of the depravity of their Western "partners", as we were just talking about?

A: They can hardly believe it.
The above question was preceded by a discussion that began with:
Q: (Keyhole) Are there members of the elite who consume the bodily fluids and or body parts of other humans?

A: Yes


Q: (Keyhole) If so, why do they do this?

A: Sickness.

Q: (Keyhole) Is there any truth to the theory that human blood is consumed for adrenochrome?

A: Not exactly. It is extracted from the blood first.

Q: (Joe) And it's created in the way that people claim it's created...

A: Yes

Q: (L) Remember they described that to us. Remember I asked about a painful and torturous death, and they said it produces chemicals that they like to consume? And if that happens for aliens, then the possibility that they're alien hybrids...

(Pierre) What are the properties of adrenochrome?

A: Anti-aging, sexual potency, energy and somewhat psychedelic.

Q: (Niall) So it's a drug.

(Joe) When you say anti-aging, is it a pronounced anti-aging effect? We're not talking about rejuvenation in any literal sense, are we?

A: Temporary or Hillary and George would look younger.

Q: (Joe) So that suggested Hillary Clinton, George Bush...

(L) I don't think you're talking about George Bush.

(Joe) George Soros. Are they aware that they seek out adrenochrome, and take it actively? They have done?

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) And they know where it comes from?

A: Yes

Q: (Gaby) Jesus!

(Chu) When they mention sickness above, it is the same as Obama, right?

A: Yes

Q: (Chu) Not that they're sick, but they are.

(Joe) And is it done via blood transfusion?

A: No

Q: (L) They said they extract it from the blood. And give it to them as a drug.

(Joe) Oh, yes, it's injected as a drug.

A: Yes

Q: (Andromeda) So basically, they torture people so that there's more of this in the blood.

(L) Children.

(Andromeda) They take the blood...

(L) Yeah.

(Gaby) That's very sick.
No wonder, they can hardly believe it. And if some of the people in the session had not had a hard time believing it, would the question even have been asked? Next is a discussion about the underground people and their agenda, which included a short Q&A for Russia. I am not assuming this is any easier to believe, for someone who has never been introduced to even a semblance of such a concept. Since we have to start somewhere, whenever we learn something new, and often with wonder and difficulty, here we go:

How much control do these underground "handlers" have in Russia? - Much less
Q: (Neema) How much control do these underground "handlers" have in Russia?

A: Much less.

Q: (Neema) Is Vladimir Putin aware of them?

A: No
The context that led to the above question was:
(Ze Germans) Are there any conflicting 4D STS groups or races operating on the Earth at the moment or all of them are more or less cooperating with each other?

A: Not cooperating with each other. That is the wrong concept. They operate under the control of an hierarchical system with an overlord pulling the strings or levers as the case may be.

Q: (L) So they don't play nicely with each other unless they're overseen by a dictatorial being who commands their obedience. Is that it more or less?

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) And who's the overlord?

(L) Who's the overlord? Oh...

(Andromeda) Slip that one in...

A: You don't want to know!

Q: (Possibility of Being) I want to know.

(Joe) I don't want to know, but PoB does. [laughter]

(L) You think that's gonna fly?

(Joe) I'll cover my ears...

A: Science fiction is often inspired. Think of someone similar to the emperor, but far more virile.

Q: (Andromeda) Palpatine. From Star Wars.

(Joe) But not as old and decrepit. Does this person say "Mwahaha!" quite a lot? [laughter]

(L) I'm not gonna...

(Joe) I'm joking. I’m just gonna assume he does.

(L) Far more virile.

(Andromeda) I guess he sucks a lot of energy, huh?

(L) Sucks a lot of energy. Yeah. 'cause that emperor looks like he's starving. I mean, ugh... Okay.

(Ze Germans) How many humans/humanoids from the underground civilization are on the surface of the Earth at the moment?

(L) Who asked this question?

(Chu) The Germans.

(L) Germans. They ask weird stuff like that. How many humans/humanoids from the underground? So, how many?

A: Varies with circumstances, but average is about 2 to 2.5 million.


Q: (Andromeda) Walking around up top.

(Joe) And do these people know who they are? I mean...

A: Of course!

Q: (Joe) Okay. And do they have a mission that they're aware of? Do they know why they're walking around?

A: Indeed. Usually acting as "handlers" or agents provocateur.


Q: (Joe) So from our perspective, their mission, it would be nefarious?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Are there any of them running that show over there in Ukraine?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Are there any of them handling members of the US government?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Handling high-level members of other governments?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Handling leaders of different types of, like, media or whatever, like influencers and such?

A: Yes yes yes

Q: (Joe) Are any of them on YouTube?

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) With large-follower channels?

A: Yes


Q: (Joe) Give us one name. [laughter]

A: No

Q: (Joe) Please. [laughter] Is part of their mission or agenda to prepare the global population for revelation of aliens?

A: Partly, but also involved with depopulation agenda.

Q: (Joe) So these people were born underground?

A: Yes

Q: (Andromeda) And raised underground?

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) And then appeared as adults on the surface, got a job...

A: Yes


Q: (Joe) And who made them?

A: Lizards in cahoots with STS Orions.

Q: (Joe) So these are human beings. They're functionally the same, as human as other human beings? Like biologically the same as other human beings, or not?

A: Some genetic tweaks. Most were harvested from human mothers and incubated.

Q: (Gaby) So this is part of the hybridization program that some experiencers or abductees recall?

A: Yes


Q: (Possibility of Being) Do they know good and evil the same way as we would understand it?

A: No

Q: (Joe) Are they - from our perspective - very much like mind-controlled beings in that sense? They don't have much free will?

A: Yes. And much like very efficient psychopaths.


Q: (L) Well.

(Joe) 2.5 million. They pop up and down.

(L) That's friendly.

(Joe) Where do they live normally when they're not on the surface? Where did they grow up and stuff?

A: Underground bases.


Q: (L) And they've described those.

(Ursus Minor) Who or what is making Netanyahu push Israel to the brink?

(L) I think we have that answer!
[laughter] Already answered there! Is that something along the line of what these underground handlers would be doing?

A: Yes and also mind manipulation.


Q: (L) Well, some of these people, I swear, you know, I mean, I listen to some of these people, these crazy lefties or these governments, like the Schwab and Trudeau and Al Gore and John Kerry and all of these other people, you know, talking... And if they believe what they're saying, then they don't have enough intelligence to come in out of the rain. If they know that what they're saying is bullshit, then they are super, super evil.

(Andromeda) They're either super evil and lying, or super stupid and mind controlled.

(Joe) How long have these underground psychos been interfering with human affairs in this way?

A: Thousands of years.


Q: (L) That reminds me, remember when I asked the question about Sargon of Akkad? And they called him a deep level punctuator. Is that what a deep level punctuator is? Somebody who comes up and does stuff?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Well, I mean, 'does stuff' is pretty vague, but you... [laughter]

(Joe) Makes an impact.

(L) Yeah. Makes an impact on human society stuff.

(Niall) Did someone like him, Sargon of Akkad, thousands of years ago, emerge from a high-tech base and play a consciously evil role on the surface where he pretended to be an ancient?

A: They would be educated and trained in congruence with the society of the time. Memory wipe before implantation of mission. However, in earlier times the tech was not adequate so that the outcome was not always certain.

Q: (L) So you're saying that when they would take people and they would have them in underground bases or whatever, they would behave and dress and converse and everything, and the environment was matched to the environment on the surface more or less?

A: Yes

Q: (L) And before they would send somebody out and in some situations they would wipe their memories or, I mean... Are we talking about something that they would do when they were children and then send them to be raised in some way?

A: Some

Q: (L) And then you say that the outcome wasn't always certain because the tech wasn't adequate. You mean the manipulation tech, the hybridization tech?

A: Yes

Q: (L) The controlling of them kind of tech?

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) Why was that tech not adequate? I suppose maybe you had to have a certain infrastructure on the planet of technology in order to control them on the planet...

A: Yes

Q: (L) Okay. And then there's the other thing... Was it also partly because the bloodline had not been purified enough?

A: Yes

Q: (L) And you say the outcome wasn't certain. What do you mean by the outcome of their plan? What do you mean that it wasn't always certain?

A: Some of the subjects were not sufficiently "evil".

Q: (L) So in other words, they would maybe turn good and turn on their creators and masters?

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) Influenced by normal human society.

(L) Maybe they fell in love. [laughter] Romance novel!

(Niall) The vampire really was saved! [laughter]

(L) Oh, it could have happened, right?

(Joe) "Seven nights in a humanoid's bed." [laughter]

(Niall) So you're saying there's a chance... [laughter]
In the above discussion, it was said that the underground people are "much like very efficient psychopaths". Included in being "very efficient" is that they are smart. This came out a little later in the session, though in an indirect way. For context, it should be mentioned that the IQ of Barack Obama is listed as around 140-145 depending on the writer, but of course there may be more elements to smartness from the C's perspective than mere IQ.
Q: (L) So you're saying Barry Obama is a sick person. Sick in what way?

A: Psychopath.

Q: (Joe) Is he an underground person?

A: No, not smart enough.

Is there a Laura/FOTCM equivalent in the East? - Unfortunately, no.
(Eboard10) Is there a Laura/FOTCM equivalent in the East?

A: Unfortunately, no.
While the above question enquires about "the East", which includes Russia but not only, the word "unfortunately" also appeared in an earlier and even similar context, but only referring to Russia:
Session 8 April 2023
Q: (Keit) Is there any current paranormal or metaphysical phenomena research going on in Russia, similar to experiments that were done during the Soviet times?

A: Small.

Q: (Keit) If so, is this being utilized by FSB or other agencies in Russia?

A: Very little, unfortunately.
And last:

What happened to the Skripals?
At the end of the same session there is an update on the Skripal case. If someone would like of a refresher, consult the so far 345 articles on SOTT that contain the word Skripal in the title, the 673 articles where Skripal appears in the summary, or the 999 articles where Skripal appears in the text. To give and idea, here are the current first 10 out of the 345 that mention Skripal in the title:
With this introduction, here is the excerpt:
Kept silent since they figured out what happened to them
(Ant22) What happened to the Skripals? The Russian spy who crossed over the UK side, and his daughter? They've been gone from the media since shortly after the Salisbury incident.

A: Kept silent since they figured out what happened to them.
With four months left of the year and the current pace of events, there are likely to be more excerpts to add for 2023. Taking a step back to review what has come up already, it is likely to be well beyond what many could or would have imagined just a few years ago? And given what we know now, there is little reason to believe we are not in for more surprises.
 
Excerpts about Russia and Vladimir Putin, May to July 2023
Since the last post, there have been three more sessions. Below are excerpts relating to Russia, (mostly) and President Vladimir Putin (some). In May, there was a question about the karmic role of Russia, while the discussion in the session from June concerned the situation that developed around some people from the Wagner PMC. The session, at the end of July, included questions and comments about what the Russian leaders might know about disturbing topics like the depravity of the Western elites, and the roles played in world affairs by very smart psychopathic people whose home base is not the surface of the planet. At the end of the latest session, there was an update on the Skripal case.

What is the karmic role of Russia? - Replay of Atlantis
Session 13 May 2023

As a comment to the above excerpt, there was in Session 29 July 2023, a further explanation:
Read The Illiad and Odyssey for clues


Wagner PMC and Prigozhin - the Russian government allowed this situation to come to a head
On the 24th of June there was a mutiny in Russia, at the session the same evening, the events were fresh in the mind of everyone and no introduction was needed. Now a few months later, a few headlines from SOTT may assist to create the context:

And the excerpts:
Session 24 June 2023


For a couple of the excerpts in the next session, I chose to first present the essential point about Vladimir Putin or Russia and then provide the context, which are very long. In this manner, it is easier to maintain a red thread and string the excerpts together.

"[P]ower center in Russia" partly dismantled by Putin
Based on a statement in an early transcript, there was a question about a "power center in Russia". We will return to what that was all about in just a moment, but first the short exchange from Session 29 July 2023

The context for "a power center in Russia" is a passage in Session 16 October 1994, part of a long commentary on expressions in Chapter 13 of The Book of Revelation, that begins with a discussion of the number 666, from verse 18, before moving onto the strange animals that are described in the same chapter.

Note: In this article 666 – The Mark of the Beast?, Laura has included images of the ancient alphabets along with the same excerpt as included in this selection.

The session continues:

Below is the rest of the commentary, which may also add significance to the statement that the karmic role of Russia is a replay of Atlantis, as brought out in Session 13 May 2023, as well as connecting to the concept of alien, or at least underground influences, which are mentioned in excerpts a little later in the 29 July session.

This above early session resonates quite well with the later excerpts from the July 29 session, like the following:

[T]he depravity of their Western "partners"-They can hardly believe it

The above question was preceded by a discussion that began with:

No wonder, they can hardly believe it. And if some of the people in the session had not had a hard time believing it, would the question even have been asked? Next is a discussion about the underground people and their agenda, which included a short Q&A for Russia. I am not assuming this is any easier to believe, for someone who has never been introduced to even a semblance of such a concept. Since we have to start somewhere, whenever we learn something new, and often with wonder and difficulty, here we go:

How much control do these underground "handlers" have in Russia? - Much less

The context that led to the above question was:

In the above discussion, it was said that the underground people are "much like very efficient psychopaths". Included in being "very efficient" is that they are smart. This came out a little later in the session, though in an indirect way. For context, it should be mentioned that the IQ of Barack Obama is listed as around 140-145 depending on the writer, but of course there may be more elements to smartness from the C's perspective than mere IQ.


Is there a Laura/FOTCM equivalent in the East? - Unfortunately, no.

While the above question enquires about "the East", which includes Russia but not only, the word "unfortunately" also appeared in an earlier and even similar context, but only referring to Russia:
Session 8 April 2023

And last:

What happened to the Skripals?
At the end of the same session there is an update on the Skripal case. If someone would like of a refresher, consult the so far 345 articles on SOTT that contain the word Skripal in the title, the 673 articles where Skripal appears in the summary, or the 999 articles where Skripal appears in the text. To give and idea, here are the current first 10 out of the 345 that mention Skripal in the title:

With this introduction, here is the excerpt:
Kept silent since they figured out what happened to them

With four months left of the year and the current pace of events, there are likely to be more excerpts to add for 2023. Taking a step back to review what has come up already, it is likely to be well beyond what many could or would have imagined just a few years ago? And given what we know now, there is little reason to believe we are not in for more surprises.
Thank you very much. What a great reminder! Also it helps understand better about sequences coming up and the hurdles facing us.
 
Excerpts about Russia and Vladimir Putin, May to July 2023
Since the last post, there have been three more sessions. Below are excerpts relating to Russia, (mostly) and President Vladimir Putin (some). In May, there was a question about the karmic role of Russia, while the discussion in the session from June concerned the situation that developed around some people from the Wagner PMC. The session, at the end of July, included questions and comments about what the Russian leaders might know about disturbing topics like the depravity of the Western elites, and the roles played in world affairs by very smart psychopathic people whose home base is not the surface of the planet. At the end of the latest session, there was an update on the Skripal case.

What is the karmic role of Russia? - Replay of Atlantis
Session 13 May 2023

As a comment to the above excerpt, there was in Session 29 July 2023, a further explanation:
Read The Illiad and Odyssey for clues


Wagner PMC and Prigozhin - the Russian government allowed this situation to come to a head
On the 24th of June there was a mutiny in Russia, at the session the same evening, the events were fresh in the mind of everyone and no introduction was needed. Now a few months later, a few headlines from SOTT may assist to create the context:

And the excerpts:
Session 24 June 2023


For a couple of the excerpts in the next session, I chose to first present the essential point about Vladimir Putin or Russia and then provide the context, which are very long. In this manner, it is easier to maintain a red thread and string the excerpts together.

"[P]ower center in Russia" partly dismantled by Putin
Based on a statement in an early transcript, there was a question about a "power center in Russia". We will return to what that was all about in just a moment, but first the short exchange from Session 29 July 2023

The context for "a power center in Russia" is a passage in Session 16 October 1994, part of a long commentary on expressions in Chapter 13 of The Book of Revelation, that begins with a discussion of the number 666, from verse 18, before moving onto the strange animals that are described in the same chapter.

Note: In this article 666 – The Mark of the Beast?, Laura has included images of the ancient alphabets along with the same excerpt as included in this selection.

The session continues:

Below is the rest of the commentary, which may also add significance to the statement that the karmic role of Russia is a replay of Atlantis, as brought out in Session 13 May 2023, as well as connecting to the concept of alien, or at least underground influences, which are mentioned in excerpts a little later in the 29 July session.

This above early session resonates quite well with the later excerpts from the July 29 session, like the following:

[T]he depravity of their Western "partners"-They can hardly believe it

The above question was preceded by a discussion that began with:

No wonder, they can hardly believe it. And if some of the people in the session had not had a hard time believing it, would the question even have been asked? Next is a discussion about the underground people and their agenda, which included a short Q&A for Russia. I am not assuming this is any easier to believe, for someone who has never been introduced to even a semblance of such a concept. Since we have to start somewhere, whenever we learn something new, and often with wonder and difficulty, here we go:

How much control do these underground "handlers" have in Russia? - Much less

The context that led to the above question was:

In the above discussion, it was said that the underground people are "much like very efficient psychopaths". Included in being "very efficient" is that they are smart. This came out a little later in the session, though in an indirect way. For context, it should be mentioned that the IQ of Barack Obama is listed as around 140-145 depending on the writer, but of course there may be more elements to smartness from the C's perspective than mere IQ.


Is there a Laura/FOTCM equivalent in the East? - Unfortunately, no.

While the above question enquires about "the East", which includes Russia but not only, the word "unfortunately" also appeared in an earlier and even similar context, but only referring to Russia:
Session 8 April 2023

And last:

What happened to the Skripals?
At the end of the same session there is an update on the Skripal case. If someone would like of a refresher, consult the so far 345 articles on SOTT that contain the word Skripal in the title, the 673 articles where Skripal appears in the summary, or the 999 articles where Skripal appears in the text. To give and idea, here are the current first 10 out of the 345 that mention Skripal in the title:

With this introduction, here is the excerpt:
Kept silent since they figured out what happened to them

With four months left of the year and the current pace of events, there are likely to be more excerpts to add for 2023. Taking a step back to review what has come up already, it is likely to be well beyond what many could or would have imagined just a few years ago? And given what we know now, there is little reason to believe we are not in for more surprises.
this post is very exhaustive and represents a lot of work. thank you. it also makes me anxious about the future and i hope to exit my body before the going gets too rough. who knows?? what would be the optimal way to minimize suffering??
 
Excerpts about Russia and Vladimir Putin, September 2023 to January 2024
The last selection of excerpts covered May to July 2023. This post covers September to January, as there were no sessions in August, The only session in the current period that did not have anything particular relating to Russia was Session 30 December 2023. The others, that is Session 23 September 2023, Session 28 October 2023 (only a little), and Session 13 January 2024, cover varying themes, like politics, ancient history, high strangeness, and translation. At the end, there is an excerpt that has more about Vladimir Putin.

For an introduction to the first topic, if needed, see the previous post, beginning with:
Wagner PMC and Prigozhin - the Russian government allowed this situation to come to a head
For a search link to SOTT news articles about Prigozhin, see this result for title, summary, and text; this result is for summary only, and this result is for text only.
Who is responsible for downing the plane that he and members of Wagner were on? - Inside job
Session 23 September 2023
(Joe) I just want to ask about Prigozhin. Who is responsible for downing the plane that he and members of Wagner were on?

A: Inside job.


Q: (Joe) Putin was aware of it, I presume?

A: Yes
A few days before the above event, on August 20, 2023, the Russian Luna-25 probe crashed into the Moon:
Was the Russian rocket to the moon sabotaged? - Yes
Session 23 September 2023
Q: (L) What else?

(Niall) Was the Russian rocket to the moon sabotaged?

A: Yes

Q: (Niall) Why?

A: Keep Russia down and embarrassed!

Q: (Joe) How was it done?

A: Remote activated EM pulse.
For context, see a few articles on SOTT:
Around the same time, there was news about a 74-year-old in charge of the Notre-Dame de Paris renovation: French general in charge of Notre-Dame reconstruction found dead in Pyrenees

It's been suggested by the Russians that he [Jean-Louis Georgelin] actually died fighting in Ukraine. Is that true? - Yes
Session 23 September 2023
Q: (Niall) Did the French General Jean-Louis Georgelin really die as reported by falling during a hike alone in the Pyrenees?

A: No

Q: (Niall) Was he murdered?

A: No

Q: (Niall) It's been suggested by the Russians that he actually died fighting in Ukraine. Is that true?

A: Yes


Q: (Niall) Holy smokes. The Russians also claimed that an American general who was officially reported as dying solo while flying his plane, in fact died while fighting in Ukraine. Is this true?

A: Yes

Q: (Niall) Oh my god. That's two senior generals. That's crazy. Has this happened to many other senior NATO military figures? Have they actually died fighting in Ukraine?

A: Yes
See also: NewsReal: Are Top Western Generals Being Killed in Ukraine? The above is similar to:
Did Lloyd Austin's sudden illness have anything to do with being in Ukraine? - Yes
Session 13 January 2024
(Aeneas & Ysus) Did Lloyd Austin's sudden illness have anything to do with being in Ukraine?

A: Yes


Q: (L) Was he injured in some way?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Is it being covered up?

A: Yes

Q: (Niall) Was he injured in a Russian airstrike?

A: Yes


Q: (Niall) Dayum.

(L) And that must be what Medvedev was alluding to in his tweet... Very, very interesting!

(Niall) So they're getting ready to start hitting big.

(Joe) How badly injured was he? I mean, he's back on the job, right? So...

(L) No, don't think so.

(Niall) He's still in the hospital.

(Joe) Is he likely to recover enough to continue his duties?

A: Most likely but was iffy for a bit.

Q: (Joe) Complication from prostate surgery is what they said... [laughter]

(Niall) That's why Biden didn't know!

(L) He got shot in the cojones! [laughter]

(Niall) On Twitter today, Medvedev basically threatened to do similar to the British Prime Minister. He said he's lucky he got away pretty much from Ukraine.
For context, see this article and the links in the comment: Lloyd Austin RELEASED from hospital after 15 days: Defense secretary heads home after secretive trip during his 'prostate cancer treatment'

In Session 13 January 2024, there was a follow-up question:
How many NATO military personnel were killed in Ukraine since the beginning of the war in Ukraine? - Dozens.
Q: (Ze Germans) How many NATO military personnel were killed in Ukraine since the beginning of the war in Ukraine?

A: Dozens.
If dozens have been killed, how many others have suffered but survived?

Since Ukraine has changed borders, the following question is also relevant to Russia:
'Heavenly Jerusalem' in Ukraine?
Session 28 October 2023
Q: (PoB) Is there any truth to this story that is going around at least through the last 10 years, more or less, about how Jews are going to create 'Heavenly Jerusalem' in Ukraine?

A: No


Q: (Joe) How are they going to create the 'Heavenly Jerusalem'?

(PoB) They were going to move like two millions or something to the part of Ukraine that would be killed out. Some are leaving, immigrating, some are...

(L) But God didn't give them Ukraine.

(Joe) If they move into Ukraine where there's been a lot of conflict, it's not gonna be heavenly.

(PoB) There is a whole conspiracy theory about it.
If there is no Heavenly Jerusalem planned for Ukraine, what about:
Session 13 January 2024
Q: (Ursus Minor) Has Israel hidden small nukes in Europe and the U.S. for retaliation?

A: Yes.

Q: (Niall) Where are they located? Please?! [laughter]
For lack of details, can any country be excluded as a potential victim of blackmail of this kind?

From politics to excerpts and discussions of high strangeness events in Russia:
Petrozavodsk phenomenon, September 20, 1977
Session 23 September 2023
(Keit) What exactly happened on September 20, 1977 in the northern regions of the USSR and Finland, that later was called a Petrozavodsk phenomenon. What was it?

(L) Describe it, inquiring minds want to know. Keit, where are you? [Temporarily off camera]

(Approaching Infinity) If she's not there, I can describe it.

(L) All right, Approaching Infinity, describe it.

(Approaching Infinity) It was a UFO with multiple sightings. It was over the town and there's allegedly even a low quality photograph of it, and it basically looks like a circular flying saucer with these streamers coming out of it. And so they called it like a jellyfish phenomenon, and that's really all the details I remember. It was just this... it was there for a while. Lots of people saw it, and basically, the drawings of it looked a saucer with these kind of tendrils or something coming out of it above the town, and they called it the Petrozavodsk phenomenon because that was the name of the town where it occurred.

(Andromeda) Did it move, or did it just appear and stayed stationary?

(Approaching Infinity) I think it was stationary, but I'm not a hundred percent sure.

(Andromeda) Like plasma?

(Approaching Infinity) Yeah... Keit just posted about it on the forum. I can bring it up to read the description really quick.

PETROZAVODSK Phenomenon (Petrozavodskoye divo) - an anomalous phenomenon that occurred around 4 a.m. on September 20, 1977 and was accompanied by mass UFO sightings in the northern regions of the USSR and in Finland.

The most impressive sightings were made in Petrozavodsk, where a huge jellyfish-like object was reported by random night passersby to have hovered over the city.

The eyewitnesses first saw the appearance of a bright star that slowly moved from west to east. The visible diameter of the "jellyfish" is estimated to be several more than 100 m, and the hovering altitude of 5-7 km.

It passed strictly along Lenin Street, the main street of the city, then stopped, increased in size and took the shape of a luminous jellyfish, while showering the city with many thin ray-like red "hollow jets", which gave the impression of heavy rain.

Apparently due to the action of these "jets" in the morning, round holes were found in the windows of the upper floors of the houses. Melted glass "tortillas" were lying on the window sills.

Physicists could not identify the chips, the physical nature of these rays was also unclear, since even a powerful laser does not produce such an even, crack-free chip. Rarely at such an early morning, cars were stopped by stalled engines under the influence of this "something".

After hovering over the main street the UFO moved to the port area on Lake Onega, hovered over the dry cargo ship "Volgobalt" and repeated irradiation for 10-12 minutes. Then it departed upwards over the lake.

The reports about these observations leaked to the press, before and after that did not publish information about UFO sightings. In addition to this object in neighboring settlements eyewitnesses saw dozens of other unidentified objects.

That was from "Izvestia", "Pravda", "Soviet Russia", 23.09.1977. So, three days later.

(L) 1977. Wow, that's bizarre! All right. What the heck was it?

A: Mass transfer between densities.

Q: (L) Are you suggesting that it was a chunk of 4D that was transferred to 3D?

A: Yes.


Q: (Joe) A "chunk of 4D"?

(L) Well, how else are you going to put it? A mass transfer of what?

A: Status.

Q: (Approaching Infinity) Like 4D status?

A: Yes.


Q: (L) Was it like a ship?

A: Similar but would not be seen as a "ship" on 4D.

Q: (L) Was it alive?

A: Something like that.


Q: (Joe) Was it to do with transferring, creating a variable 4D environment beneath the area of Finland or Russia?

A: No.

Q: (L) Is this something that's just kind of really hard to conceptualize in our reality?

A: Yes.

Q: (Joe) What was the purpose of it?

(Chu) Here is the image. [On screen]

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(Gaby) And why did it happen?

(Joe) Is that a picture or a drawing?

(Niall) It looks like a photo.

(Andromeda) Is it like a symbol of a type of energy status?

(Niall) It looks a bit like that lightning that happened...

(Andromeda) The sprites...

(Joe) What was the purpose of it?

A: No purpose. The conditions allowed the transfer. Those of 4D involved were surprised as well.

Q: (L) So in other words, like a grand window falling event without an actual window faller?

A: Close.

Q: (L) Well, you know, it's a weird world!
For the following discussion about an anomalous area in Russia, see this post by @Keit, which has a map of the area and a description of some of the peculiarities that have been observed.
Molebsky triangle in Russia? - Thinning of the "veil".
Session 23 September 2023
(Keit) Is the Molebsky triangle in Russia an anomalous zone similar to the Skinwalker Ranch?

A: Close.

(Keit) What is the nature of the phenomenon?

A: Thinning of the "veil".

(Keit) What is the nature of what was happening there?

A: Energetic transfers.

Q: (L) Was it like a portal?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Bizarre.
Next, is a video from Bashkortostan "a republic of Russia located between the Volga and the Ural Mountains in Eastern Europe.", apparently recorded in 2016. It shows a car driving along a dirt road while a being follows the car. What did the passengers observe?

Usual window faller. We warned about increasing frequency of such encounters
Session 13 January 2024
(L) Oxajil is asking:

(Oxajil) In 2016, footage surfaced from Bashkortostan, Russia, showing people in a car being chased by something. What was chasing them?

(L) Can we get Oxajil up on the screen? Did you do any research to find out if there was an ordinary answer to this question?

(Oxajil) Well, there was a video analysis by a guy who said that the way the creature moved was very unnatural and it kind of looked like a, like bigfoot, but it moved very strange. Made a movement like this [demonstrates], so, yeah, I don't know what it is. I was just curious.

(L) Oh, you were just curious. You did not even stop to consider whether this question was universally interesting. Okay, well, we'll ask anyway. What was it?

A: Usual window faller. We warned about increasing frequency of such encounters.
Also in the Ural mountains, but in the area of Kholat Syakhl 800-900 km to the north of the capital of the Bashkortostan, Ufa, there was:
Dyatlov Pass incident

The Dyatlov Pass incident (Russian: гибель тургруппы Дятлова, transl. "Death of the Dyatlov Tour Group") was an event in which nine Soviet hikers died in the northern Ural Mountains between February 1 and 2, 1959, under uncertain circumstances. The experienced trekking group from the Ural Polytechnical Institute, led by Igor Dyatlov, had established a camp on the eastern slopes of Kholat Syakhl in the Russian SFSR of the Soviet Union. Overnight, something caused them to cut their way out of their tent and flee the campsite while inadequately dressed for the heavy snowfall and sub-zero temperatures.
To introduce the comment from the latest session, there was in Session 27 February 2016:
Dyatlov Pass is only one of many similar occurrences on your planet. The events had more to do with transdimensional transfer and time dilation than any "secret" experiments.
[First 10 minutes of pre-session were spent attempting to gather the proper info for questions on the Dyatlov Pass incident...]

Q: (L) Today's date is the 27th of February 2016. (Arielle) 27 is a 9. (L) 2016 makes 9 also.

(Galatea) And 9 people died in the Dyatlov Pass incident! 9! 9! 9!

(L) Oh my god, turn it upside down and it'll be 666!

A: Hello kinder! Cassiopaea is on the line! Millmnoa speaking! Dyatlov Pass is only one of many similar occurrences on your planet. The events had more to do with transdimensional transfer and time dilation than any "secret" experiments.

Q: (L) Time dilation... Transdimensional transfer we semi-sort of understand, but time dilation? Well, I guess in a sense we semi-sort of understand that, too. Okay, why were their tents cut from the inside as though they were escaping from there?

A: The portal appeared there.

Q: (L) Okay. Was this cutting open the tent and escaping because of a portal, was that... Obviously, that had to have happened AFTER the transdimensional transfer event if... Well, maybe I shouldn't say obviously. Let me just ask: Did that happen after they were returned from some kind of transdimensional transfer?

A: Yes

Q: (L) So, the ones who died from hypothermia came back more or less alive and died from hypothermia because they cut open the tents and were crazy in getting away. But what about the others who died from serious injuries, including the one who had the tongue cut out?

A: They were returned later and the portal was some distance above the Earth.

Q: (Andromeda) So they were dropped.

(L) Okay, well, I think I read something about them being dehydrated or some physiological symptoms, their clothes being sorted out in a wrong way, and some other really bizarre things like that...

A: Effects of the transfer.


Q: (L) So, when things get transferred back and forth, things can get muddled up a little bit? I mean, it's like that movie where the girl and the guy had to go through some kind of warp portal. They had some kind of chambers where they went into suspended animation while they went through this portal in their spaceship. They were fighting bad guys on the ship and they got rid of the bad guys, but only one of the transfer devices remained. So, they got in it together. Funny thing was when they came out on the other side, the girl was pregnant because they had dissolved their atoms together in the same cylinder for this transfer process. When they came out...

(Pierre) Well, that's what they say... [laughter]

(L) Well, I know it was science fiction, but it always stuck in my mind. If you went together with somebody through some kind of thing where you come apart molecularly and then get reassembled on the other side or something, things could tend to be a little confusing if somebody is not really competent to really handle the hardware.

(Pierre) It's like the Philadelphia Experiment when some of the soldiers remolecularized inside the steel walls of the ship.

(L) Is that part of the time dilation problem?

A: Yes


Q: (L) So if something is aimed at a certain point in spacetime but the planet moves, or something moves, or something doesn't get lined up properly, all kinds of really strange things can happen.

(Joe) Was this portal opened accidentally in this area? It wasn't specifically related to these people?

A: It was a scouting expedition by other dimensional plant based amateurs.

Q: (L) Are you saying plant-based in the sense that these were creatures that were plantiferous or something?

A: Yes


Q: (Data) Why bother going through this difficulty of returning the people instead of keeping them?

A: They were not wanted long term. Amateurs!

Q: (Joe) This portal was opened up specifically to have this effect on these Russian hikers?

A: No

Q: (Joe) Accidental, then.

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) So, it's like, "Let's try out our transdimensional portal-opener, and see what happens!"

A: The location was important.

Q: (Joe) And the hikers just happened to be there.

A: Yes

Q: (Pierre) What made the location important?

A: Underground mineral content and structure.


Q: (Joe) So this was a bunch of plant-like creatures who were scouting the planet for minerals for dinner or something... Mining something...

A: Close.

Q: (Chu) Is that what happened to the people that PoB told us about that created a myth?

A: No. Myth.

Q: (Joe) Plant-based... What did they look like? Were they like cactus people or something?

A: Similar to some so-called gray aliens.


Q: (Joe) But they're plant-based.

(Andromeda) And they were experimenting or looking for minerals or something.

(L) Scouting.

(Andromeda) People were in the way, and they were like, "Oops! We didn't want you..."

(Joe) It's like going fishing and catching the wrong thing, then throwing it back.

A: Close.

Q: (PoB) Where was the potassium-40 from that was found on them?

A: Transfer process leak.


Q: (Joe) Like chemicals involved... like Bigfoot and sulfur.

(L) Why did that woman have her tongue taken?

A: Specimen.

Q: (Andromeda) What about the woman with the brain damage but no physical trauma?

A: Transfer process failure. Amateurs!!


Q: (L) So in other words, these were beings who really didn't know how to handle the technology they were dealing with. They were playing with something they had that they really weren't competent to handle or something. And they screwed up. And how many things like that happen on our planet?

A: Lots.

Q: (Joe) It's kinda like if we want to transfer a plant. [laughter]

A: Just think of all the incompetent science in your realm!

Q: (L) In other words, some of these idiots that are setting off atomic bombs could be having similar effects or results on other individuals in other realms from their experiments?

A: Yes

Q: (PoB) Were there fireballs that people said they saw in the location?

A: Probing portals obviously!

Q: (L) So in other words, sometimes some of these balls of light or fire could be like openings or portals that are probing around in our reality?

A: Oh indeed!
The above discussion introduces:
The C’s have said that setting off nukes could have effects on beings in other realms similar to Dyatlov Pass
Session 13 January 2024
Q: (L) Okay. This is Approaching Infinity:

(Approaching Infinity) Why is 4D STS so interested in all our nuclear activities, whether energy or weapons related? The background being, while many think they are just concerned that we don't destroy ourselves, others like Tom Delonge say it is because nukes can actually damage them, that they have negative effects in their dimension.

A: Yes

Q: (Approaching Infinity) Also, the C’s have said that setting off nukes could have effects on beings in other realms similar to Dyatlov Pass.

A: There is your answer!


Q: (L) So the reason they're concerned or interested is because nukes can break dimensional barriers?

A: Yes

Q: (L) And those barriers can be not just between horizontal dimensions, but between densities?

A: Yes

Q: (L) And also is it true that that energy can go into those other densities or dimensions and cause damage there?

A: Yes
Leaving the examples of high strangeness, next, there is more about the role of Russia which continues a previous discussion:

What is the karmic role of Russia? - Replay of Atlantis
Session 13 May 2023
(Ze Germans) What is the karmic role of Russia?

A: Replay of Atlantis.


Q: (L) When you say replay of Atlantis, are you saying that Russia is playing the part of Atlantis?

A: No. The adversary.

Q: (L) So in other words, the one that defeated Atlantis when it attempted to take over the world?

A: Yes.
As a comment to the above excerpt, there was in Session 29 July 2023, a further explanation:
Read The Illiad and Odyssey for clues
(Ze Germans) If Russia's karmic role is an adversary of Atlantis, who was playing this role back then before the final destruction of Atlantis?

A: Same locale, different names. Read The Iliad and Odyssey for clues.


Q: (L) Well, supposedly, according to Plato, it was the Athenians against Atlantis. But there were no Athenians until late in modern history. So maybe that name was carried forward from an even more ancient history that was further north. I hope y'all are following my little excerpts from “Horns of Moses” that I've been putting on Ark's blog because I kind of talk about that a little bit. Okay.
On the topic of Atlantis and Athens:
What is the percentage of truth in Plato's account of Atlantis as is known to us? - 70
Session 13 January 2024
Q: (Altair) What is the percentage of truth in Plato's account of Atlantis as is known to us?

A: 70.


Q: (Altair) Did Troy ever exist as a town?

A: Yes

Q: (Altair) And if so, where was it located?

A: England.

Q: (Joe) "Where Troy Once Stood"

(Chu) Yeah, we knew that one.

(Altair) Did the Trojan War really happen as depicted in the Iliad?

A: No

Q: (Altair) If not, what was the inspiration for writing The Iliad?

A: Cataclysms.

Q: (L) So what was being depicted was basically kind of like a recounting of the cataclysms depicted as kind of like other densities fighting and this being represented on Earth as cataclysms?

A: Yes

Q: (Andromeda) A docudrama.

(L) A docudrama, yes.

(Niall) A dramatic representation.
What is the root cause of the karmic conflict between the US and Russia; Atlantis and people unknown and so on? - Yes.
Session 23 September 2023
Q: (Altair) What is the root cause of the karmic conflict between the US and Russia; Atlantis and people unknown and so on?

A: Yes.


Q: (Altair) Was it something that happened on Kantek and eventually led to its destruction?

A: No.
What happened to the population of "Athens" – i.e. Russia - who were acting as Atlantis' opponent? - Suffered cataclysms like everyone else but with more survivors.
Session 13 January 2024
(Ryan) At the time of the cosmic catastrophes related to the "fall of Atlantis", what happened to the population of "Athens" – i.e. Russia - who were acting as Atlantis' opponent?

A: Suffered cataclysms like everyone else but with more survivors.
The excerpt continues, but the topic changes:
The ancestors of the Russians and the Celtic peoples were the same
Q: (Ryan) What relationship, if any, did they have with the Celtic peoples of the British/Irish isles who constructed the megaliths?

A: Ancestors were the same.


Q: (L) So the ancestors of the Russians and the Celtic peoples were the same?

A: Yes
Again a continuation and change of subject:
Is there a significant concentration of people anywhere in the world that carries that Semitic gene that they're talking about? - Yes - Russia.
Q: (seek10) C's mentioned 4D STS aim is to eliminate 'True Semites' before the transition. Is the current and recent past Palestinian resistance to Israel the result of "True Semitic" gene type?

A: Partly in so far as any of them carry it.

Q: (L) Are you saying that Palestinians may not be Semitic, or only partly Semitic?

A: Yes

Q: (L) I think we once established that the Semites were something quite different from what we call them today, so that we can't necessarily say that Palestinians are Semitic, or even that the Jews are Semitic.

(Joe) Is there a significant concentration of people anywhere in the world that carries that Semitic gene that they're talking about?

A: Yes.

(Gaby) Where?

(Niall) Or who?

A: Russia.

Q: (Joe) Not your average "Semites"...

(seek10) The current War seems to be focused in Middle East. Do they have other plans for "True Semites" in other regions like in West or East other than vaccine framework?

A: Review knowledge and re-ask in different form.

Q: (L) Well, let me ask this: Are there a lot of people in Iraq and Iran who are part of this true Semitic type?

A: Yes

Q: (L) And that would be one of the reasons why they're focused on ultimately fighting... why they went into Iraq and started the whole thing there. And then ultimately wanting to fight a war with Iran, and constantly wanting to fight a war with Russia...

(Niall) Through Ukraine....

(L )...and just bleed Russia dry. That's part of the whole thing. Is that it?

A: Close
Although there is a significant concentration of people in Russia that carry "that Semitic gene that they're talking about" one finds in Session 30 January 2010 that the number of psychopaths is also high:
(Belibaste) We wanted to know the percentage of psychopaths geographically speaking, like in the US, Israel, UK.

(L) Alright, let's take them one at a time.

(Belibaste) USA?

A: 23 percent.

Q: (Belibaste) United Kingdom?

A: 14 percent.

Q: (L) That's because they all went to America. (laughter)

(Ailén) Israel?

A: 42 percent.

Q: (Belibaste) France?

A: 10 percent.

Q: (Burma Jones) Russia?

A: 17


Q: (Belibaste) What about some poor country like Ethiopia?

A: 3

Q: (Joe) That's 75 million people in the US.

(Burma Jones) That's a lot of psychopaths.

(Ottershrew) What's the country that's the lowest?

A: Samoa

Q: (Belibaste) What's the percentage in Samoa?

A: 0.6

Q: (Belibaste) In Samoa there's quite a strong ethnical specificity.

(L) I don't know anything about Samoa.

(Joe) I think they're the same as the Maori.

(PoB) Just in case, is there any country with a bigger percentage than Israel?

A: Not at present

Q: (Burma Jones) So Israel is the worst at present.

(Belibaste) In the past, was there a country with a higher percentage?

A: Low Countries.

Q: (Andromeda) What about Spain?

A: 2.6

Q: (Ailén) China?

A: 0.9

Q: (Ailén) Well, there are so many people in China...

(Joe) When they said the low countries, did they all leave the low countries and go to England?

A: USA and South Africa

Q: (Ailén) What about Holland?

(L) That's the low countries.

(Ailén) But that was in the past...

(L) Oh, you mean at present?

A: Still high

Q: (L) Are you going to give us a number on that?

A: 13
Besides the percentage of psychopaths, the influence is probably moderated by the knowledge circulating in society. More knowledge in the population should offer more protection.

Previously there was from in Session 13 May 2023: What is the karmic role of Russia? - Replay of Atlantis, and in Session 13 January 2024 the comment on the conflict between Atlantis and Athens/Russia, that the area of Russia "Suffered cataclysms like everyone else but with more survivors." These comments may serve as a bridge to the next topic about helping people and preserving knowledge:
Translate more!!
Session 13 January 2024
(thorbiorn) Regarding the C’s statements that the Russians are "unfortunately" utilizing paranormal research very little and there is "unfortunately" no Laura / FOTCM equivalent in the East, is there anything we could do to resolve or make up for this "unfortunate" situation?

A: Translate more!!
The "East" from the perspective of France/Western Europe includes several other regions and languages besides Russian. Besides, people travel, and what gets picked up where b whom may surprise Anyway for the context of this thread, below is what is already available in Russian at the time of posting:
Books
Высокая странность,
Земные изменения и взаимосвязь между человеком и космосом
Встречи с кометами,
Политическая понерология
Éiriú Eolas (DVD),
Волна, Том 1 — Путешествуя на Волне,
Волна, Том 2 — Хакеры души
Волна, Том 3 — Раздетый до костей
SOTT articles, Cassiiopaean sessions in Russian, Russian-speaking section of the forum, For social media like Telegram channels and VK.com pages:, see "ТГ ru.sott.net, TГ x-ufo.ru, ВК ru.sott.net, ВК x-ufo.ru (SN in Russian)" Thanks to @Keit for gathering the links!

One thought shared in another thread, was that if the US is heading for destruction, how sure can we be that English will maintain its current role as a global lingua franca? It is not only about languages, places, and people, it is also about preserving knowledge, and a related discussion was:
How important is it for the preservation of knowledge to make efforts to preserve knowledge in books and printed matter? - Very!
Session 29 July 2023
(thorbiorn) Digitalization makes knowledge formerly written in books more accessible, but also more controllable and volatile, since digital storage mediums are more sensitive to electromagnetic disturbances and digital editing. How important is it for the preservation of knowledge to make efforts to preserve knowledge in books and printed matter?

A: Very!


Q: (L) So it's very important.

(thorbiorn) What is the most reliable way to preserve knowledge?

A: Carved in stone or written on wet clay and then baked.

Q: (Chu) Does anybody feel like transcribing "From Paul to Mark" on stone? Right. [laughter]

(Andromeda) Somewhere in a cave, or a cave wall!

(Scottie) "Secret History"! We're gonna need a big rock.

(L) Yeeeah.... [laughter] Well, it is true that those are the things that have survived for thousands of years.

(Andromeda) Yeah, the only things.

(L) And I guess the second would be the other method, which is writing on paper-like surfaces, you know, like vellum or sheep skin or whatever. And then recopying it at regular intervals. Carefully, because errors always come in when you copy.

(Andromeda) Yeah, so you have to have a trustworthy line of people to do that.

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) Well, I'm sure there's probably some modern kind of laser inscribing on stone.

(L) Well, that might work.

(Joe) We could have that done, you know, do one of your books or something.

(L) Yeah, just do it with lasers.

(Joe) That would be a lot of stone, though.

(L) Yeah.
For a fraction of the money spent on the military these years, massive archives of essential printed material could be built, translations could be made, with some even committed to stone. It is very far from impossible, but it does require effort and an appreciation of the need as well as the risks associated with relying on the comfort of digital storage, and books mainly available in English. While what is available is all good on its own, it would be quite doable for 4D STS to attack the current levels of knowledge preservation if not now then given a few decades, as the transition to 4D will take some time, which leads to the topic of:
The "thousand year period."
Session 22 October 1994
A: [...] you must now make a choice as to whether to progress to service to others or to remain at the level of service to self. This will be the decision which will take quite some time for you to adjust to. This is what is referred to as the "thousand year period." [...]
The above consideration appeared again many years later:
After the Wave there would be a 1000 year period as 3D transition into 4D.
Session 4 April 2015,
(L) I think they said that after the Wave there would be a 1000 year period as 3D transition into 4D.

A: Yes


Q: (L) So in other words, in a sense that is kind of like a 1000 year process of the Wave. The creation of a totally new reality obviously, in cosmic terms, takes that strange process that doesn't exist called time to manifest. But obviously, they are now talking about the breaking down process, the chaos.

A: Yes. Now you begin to see what "time" really is: cosmic processes of almost infinite duration. But do not be complacent because some of these processes can be rather "quick" and devastating from your perspective.
If cataclysm was a part of the demise of Atlantis what will a replay lead to? That is hard to predict, and whether to take the following literally or symbolically is open to interpretation:
When the present period of change terminates, much of your world will be unrecognizable
Session 6 February 2016
A: We once mentioned worldwide simultaneous eruptions. Not just that, but also the cyclic heating within the Earth and release of gases that propel continental drift. When the present period of change terminates, much of your world will be unrecognizable.

Q: (L) YEEHAW! [laughter]
If it takes some time for the choice to be made and for 4D to manifest fully, my concern, whether justified or not, is that those who come after us are left with a washed-out, censored, distorted, and stoved-away version of knowledge. Think of the recovery work by centuries of scholarship and over time tens of thousands of handwriters, printers, translators, publishers, librarians, and teachers, as well as all the funds required, earned by millions and millions of people, needed to even be able to write a book like From Paul to Mark! - And that is just one example! There is much knowledge to preserve, which of course does not mean it is all equally essential, but knowing what has happened in the past to repositories of knowledge and manuscripts leaves me still uneasy.

What is Vladimir Putin's view on the alien phenomenon? Does he think it's malevolent? - Mostly and why he promotes Christianity.
Session 13 January 2024
(Keit) Considering background information on the forum, here are several questions. Does Putin have knowledge about the UFO research and the related activities like crash retrievals that were going on back in the USSR?

A: Partial but more concerned with daily tasks.

Q: (L) So he is pragmatic, he wants to deal with what's in front of him.

(Keit) Is Russia in the possession of alien vehicles, tech and bodies as claimed?

A: Yes

Q: (Keit) Can you tell us where they are located?

A: No

Q: (Andromeda) Nice try. [laughter]

(Keit) Did USSR or Russia try to reverse engineer alien tech?

A: Yes

Q: (Keit) Were they successful?

A: Yes


Q: (Keit) Are there any reverse engineering projects going on right now?

A: Yes

Q: (Keit) Is Putin aware of such projects?

A: Yes

Q: (Keit) What is his view on the alien phenomenon? Does he think it's malevolent?

A: Mostly and why he promotes Christianity.
 
Merci Thotbiorn pour tous tes articles qui sont toujours d'une excellente qualité et si instructifs car il est bon de nous remettre en mémoire les sessions des Cassiopéens et LAURA... Merci pour tous tes travaux très appréciés...

Thank you Thotbiorn for all your articles which are always of excellent quality and so instructive because it is good to remind us of the Cassiopean and LAURA sessions... Thank you for all your much appreciated work...
 
I remain convinced that one of the reasons why Putin was able to do what he did and continues to do so, is something many people are not aware of:

He doesn’t own or use a cellphone. And he probably also stays away from using computers in much of what he does.

It could even be a major reason why he was able to do what he does for so long. He wasn’t KGB and later FSB chief for nothing!
 
Vladimir Putin and Russia in the transcripts, January to April 2023
I think that Thorbiorn's work here is of paramount importance when you're looking to understand the extent to which public perception is being successfully manipulated to derail any attempt at getting to the Truth. Now we have Elon Musk issuing a warning about the imminence of a major event similar to 9/11 only even worse, and I think this also potentially ties in with the effort to further discredit Russia in the eyes of the average public and justify an escalation of the warmorgering geared towards the envisioned all-out war against Russia.

Musk has stated "Something WORSE THAN 9/11 is Coming Soon" and suggested that the lack of border control will facilitate this (rather vague theat). To the credit of at least one independent commentator, namely Elijah Schaffer from Gateway Pundit, this "dire warning" by Musk will probably materialize as a False Flag operation. That is a far more accurate assessment than Musk's vague but rather insidious warning, because Musk is here surreptitiously implying a connection between actual terrorism and 9/11 when, by now, all of us already know that it was actually what we can loosely call the “Shadow Government” behind it all, and Musk is also implying that actual terrorists are being allowed into the country posing as migrants seeking asylum, so he appears to be crying "Wolf!" again like Bush Jr. did and implying that, once more, the U.S. is in the cross hairs of "evil foreign terrorists".

That undercover terrorists may be being flown into the U.S. to be used as pawns could very well be the case, but again, it would be the Shadow Government orchestrating all this, with the whole Biden coterie as actual facilitators and accomplices. But if there is an actual terrorist threat, then the discussion should focus on who is orchestrating it from inside and not whether some illegal aliens are to be blamed in advance.

If left unchecked, this ploy will surely result in a major False Flag operation not unlike 9/11, but this time around the actual instigators will make sure to publicly parade Russian or Chinese nationals, instead of Saudis, as the culprits, and history ought to serve us as a stark reminder that the majority of the American public will, as sure as the sun rises every day, easily fall for this new charade. I'm sure we can all surmise that this will be used as a catalyst to escalate the current regional war and shift gears towards a global confrontation with Russia.
 
Thank you very much Thorbiorn for all your hard work and data compilation. This is a long research job and I am very grateful to you for sharing it with the members.💗

Merci beaucoup Thorbiorn pour tout ce travail et compilations des données. Ceci est long travail de recherche et sache que je suis très reconnaissante de ton partage auprès des membres.
💗
 
Many thanks to thorbiorn for this whole collection.
I want to share my unusual feelings and assumptions. For further understanding, I must say that I have read all the sessions without exception and some more than once, so I have met everything that is present in this collection before. At the same time, reading the material in this collection, it's like I'm seeing some things for the first time. I understand that this cannot be the case for the reason described above and it really is not the case, but nevertheless the perception of the material is radically different from the original one. I wonder if anyone else is experiencing something like this?
I have some suggestions about the reasons for this different perception. The first assumption is actually not mine, I found it here on the forum and it seemed appropriate to me. Unfortunately, I did not remember the author, but let him not be offended. This assumption lies in the fact that all the long-term activities of the group led by Laura move all of us in our reality as if "horizontally" or from one time line to another, and this may be associated with another perception of the same material and also in fact a change in the material itself.
The rest of the assumptions are more banal. I have aged and become stupid in 8 years (in fact, a little more) of communicating with the material, or I have become smarter (it is harder for me to believe this and not because I have nowhere to get smarter:umm:).

Огромная благодарность thorbiorn за всю эту подборку.
Я хочу поделиться своими необычными ощущениями и предположениями. Для дальнейшего понимания надо сказать, что я прочитал все сессии без исключения и некоторые не по одному разу, так что все, что присутствует в этой подборке я встречал раньше. При этом, читая материал в этой подборке, я как будто вижу некоторые вещи в первый раз. Я понимаю, что этого не может быть по причине описанной выше и это действительно не так, но тем не менее восприятие материала кардинально отличается от первоначального. Интересно, кто-нибудь еще испытывает что то подобное?
У меня есть некоторые предположения о причинах этого другого восприятия. Первое предположение собственно не мое, я его нашёл здесь, на форуме и оно мне показалось подходящим. К сожалению я не запомнил автора, но пусть не обижается. Заключается это предположение в том, что вся многолетняя деятельность группы во главе с Лорой двигает всех нас в нашей реальности как бы "по горизонтали" или из одной временной линии в другую и с этим может быть связано и другое восприятие одного и того же материала и так же и фактически изменение самого материала.
Остальные предположения более банальны. Я постарел и поглупел за 8 лет(фактически несколько больше) общения с материалом, либо я поумнел (в это мне труднее поверить и не потому, что умнеть мне некуда).
 

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