Reviewing some transcripts about windows, portals, polygons and gravity

thorbiorn

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A few weeks ago, I revisited Session 5 February 2000, where an answer to Ark from the Cs included: "Look to stellar windows. Octagon, hexagon, pentagon." In a reply I posted some images of polygons as they appear in comon star constellations, like the Winter Hexagon, the Auriga Constellation (another hexagon), and the pentagon made up by some of the stars in the Orion constellation. Given that it was an answer to Ark, mathematical properties and tools with descriptive power will be involved and on a level that is removed from the shape of a constellation, but I was still fascinated by the discussion and the imagery. While writing the reply to the above session, I gathered other excerpts about windows, portals, and polygons, and since they did not fit, here we are and maybe the questions I wondered about will be solved, as the thread unfolds. This post moves from cosmic concept like stars to the level of atoms, molecules and their interactions.

For the initial context, here is the excerpt from Session 5 February 2000
Look to stellar windows. Octagon, hexagon, pentagon.
Q: It's really sad that Santilli is involved with such flakey people! (F) Hasn't he always been? (L) He is certainly influenced by the wrong people! And I don't think we want anything to do with him at all. (A) Now, we we were talking about Kaluza Klein, and you mentioned the Germans "exploring the loop of the cylinder" in relation to time travel. I don't know what this means but I have the idea that it is related to extra dimensions, hyperspace. Now, we asked a question at some point and you said that a cylinder is really a double loop. You then suggested that we meditate on the true meaning of this sentence. Now, I don't know how to meditate, but I do know how to do math. So, I drew three pictures here: one is a real cylinder, two is a which is a kind of cylinder inside a cylinder, and three, like a torus. Laura said that it wasn't any of these, that it should only have one side like a cylinder/mobius strip - no left and no right. So, this could be option 4, something like a Klein bottle or option 5, something called a twisted torus. Is it 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5? Or 6, none of the above? Is it one of these?

A: Selection 3.

Q: 3 is the torus. (L) What is a loop of the cylinder? Yes, there is one loop and then there is another loop. One loop is probably what we call time - cyclical time.

A: Time cycle.

Q: What is the second loop?

A: Included, but not inclusive.

Q: I guess that means that it is included, but is not the whole thing. It covers that, but that isn't the whole thing. What DOES it mean?

A: Yes.

Q: Wait, I asked what is the second loop. The second loop is included but not inclusive?

A: Remember, you do have cycles but that does not necessarily mean cyclical. 3 Dimensional depiction of loop, seek hexagon for more. Geometric theory provides answers for key. Look to stellar windows. Octagon, hexagon, pentagon.

Q: Are those the different levels of density?

A: No, but it relates. Geometry gets you there, algebra sets you "free."

Q: That's funny. There is Tony Smith's website, and whenever I search for any keyword that comes up here, I go straight to Tony Smith. He has everything there. (L) But, does he know what he is doing? (A) Well, he has it all there. He is now working on a new theory of gravity. (L) But, if he really knew something, would he be still walking around? Anything else?

A: No, not for now. Good night.
Above, there was "Look to stellar windows." In this regard, what about the sun?
The interior of the sun is a window.
Session 4 March 1995
Q: (L) Could you describe for us the interior of our sun and how it works?

A: It is a window.

Q: (L) The interior of the sun is a window.
Okay, is the interior of the sun composed of what we would call solid matter?

A: No.

Q: (L) The general idea is that the interior of the sun is composed of great masses of hydrogen and this is converting to helium and...

A: In 3rd density perception.

Q: (L) You are saying that the sun is a window or transmission point between dimensions. If that is the case, then it is virtually illimitable in terms of longevity?

A: Close.

Q: (L) So, the ideas of the sun running out of gas and turning into a red giant and sauteeing humanity are incorrect concepts?

A: No. 3rd level, Laura, 3rd level!

Q: (L) So, in 3rd level it will...

A: Open.
From the sun to other spherical cosmic objects and their property of being a window, but a window for what? And this is where gravity comes in.
We have told you before that planets and stars are windows. And where does it go? - The windows? - The gravity.
Session 15 June 1996
A: We have told you before that planets and stars are windows. And where does it go?

Q: (L) The windows?

A: The gravity.


Q: (L) Oh. Gravity must go into the ethereal dimensions or densities. I mean, you have my head going in so many different directions that I feel like I have popcorn in there.

A: Good!

Q: (L) Well, where does gravity go. The sun is a window. Even our planet must be a window!

A: You have it too!!


Q: (L) So, gravity is the unifying principle... the thing that keeps things together, like the way all the fat pulls together in a bowl of soup.

A: Gravity is all there is.

Q: (L) Is light the emanation of gravity?

A: No.

Q: (L) What is light?

A: Gravity.


Q: (L) Is gravity the same as the strong and weak nuclear forces?

A: Gravity is "God."

Q: (L) But, I thought God was light?

A: If gravity is everything, what isn't it? Light is energy expression generated by gravity.

Q: (L) Is gravity the "light that cannot be seen," as the Sufis call it: the Source.

A: Please name something that is not gravity.

Q: (L) Well, if gravity is everything, there is nothing that is not gravity. Fine. What is absolute nothingness?

A: A mere thought.

Q: (L) So, there is no such thing as non-existence?

A: Yes, there is.

Q: (L) Do thoughts produce gravity?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Does sound produce gravity?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Can sound manipulate gravity?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Can it be done with the human voice?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Can it be done tonally or by power through thought?

A: Both.


Q: (L) Then, is there also specific sound configurations involved?

A: Gravity is manipulated by sound when thought manipulated by gravity chooses to produce sound which manipulates gravity.

Q: (L) Now, did the fellow who built the Coral Castle spin in his airplane seat while thinking his manipulations into place?

A: No. He spun when gravity chose to manipulate him to spin in order to manipulate gravity.

Q: (L) Does gravity have consciousness?

A: Yes.


Q: (L) Is it ever possible for the individual to do the choosing, or is it gravity that IS him that chose?

A: The gravity that was inside him was all the gravity in existence.

Q: (L) Well, I thought the Sufis were tough! (F) Well, it's probably because of your studies that this door opened. (L) Good grief! What have I done! Alright. I am confused.

A: No you are not.

Q: (L) Then, just put it this way: I am befuddled and overloaded.

A: Befuddling is fun!

Q: (L) Well, I guess that if any of this is going to be of particular significance to us, then we will certainly find out the details as we go along.

A: How many times do we have to tell you?!?!

Q: (L) Learning is fun! Right!

A: The entire sum total of all existence exists within each of you, and vice versa.

Q: (L) Then what is the explanation for the "manyness" that we perceive?

A: Perception of 3rd density.

Q: (L) So, the entire universe is inside me... okay, that's... I understand. Oddly enough, I do. The problem is accessing it, stripping away the veils.

A: That is the fun part.


Q: (L) So, the fellow who built the Coral Castle was able to access this. Consistently or only intermittently?

A: Partially.

Q: (L) According to what I understand, at the speed of light, there is no mass, no time, and no gravity. How can this be?

A: No mass, no time, but yes, gravity.

Q: (L) A photon has gravity?

A: Gravity supersedes light speed.

Q: (L) Gravity waves are faster than light?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) What would make a gravity wave unstable?

A: Utilization.


Q: (L) I feel like I am missing a really big point here...

A: You are, but you can only find it at your own pace.

Q: (L) Well, I think I need to do some reading and research so that I can come back to this.

A: And, on that note, good night.
Regarding: "Gravity supersedes light speed." there was a further clarification, that gravity is not instantaneous, but supersedes the speed of light.
Session 23 May 2020
Q: (Ark) I have one more question about gravity. Should gravity respect the speed of light, or it's instantaneous or something?

A: Supersedes.


Q: (Ark) Okay.
"Light is energy expression generated by gravity", and gravity has consciousness and travels faster than the speed of light. Could that mean that if there is a gravity wave associated with a supernova, then it would influence life on Earth before the actual light is detectable?

In the following excerpt, there is an intriguing discussion, about water, space, ether and gravity.
Space is water? - Yes.
Water is the Google search of the universe. Yes.
Ether is the interface between information and manifestation. - Gravity "travels" on ether.

Session 6 February 2016
(L) Oh yeah! This is very interesting. I forgot to tell ya'll about this. Ark has read a very interesting study about water and how you can talk to it and program it.

(Arky) So question is first, is it really the case that water is so smart that when you talk to it, you can change its properties?

A: Yes

Q: (Arky) Okay. Now, what is it in the water that makes it so sensitive to intentions that they make the water change its chemical and biological functions?

A: This goes beyond the material properties to the information field that is the fundament of water, a most basic substance in the cosmos with strong creative and receptive qualities.

Q: (Galatea) Water has memory. It's like a library. It has memory.

(L) That's the problem we're trying to get to.

(Galatea) Oh, you're trying to understand why?

(L) Exactly.

(Arky) Is water really VERY, VERY, VERY special in this respect?

A: Yes

Q: (Pierre) So other substances don't have those properties?

A: Right.

Q: (Galatea) That's where the idea holy water comes from.

(Joe) So, should we talk to our water?

(Arky) Yes

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) What should we say?

(L) Good water! Good water!

(Andromeda) Nice water! [laughter]

(Galatea) Is it good to let rainwater touch your skin whenever it rains?

A: Not much recently, you might get burned.

Q: (L) Acid rain. You've got more questions about the water, honey?

(Arky) Not about the water. I want to ask about dialectical logic. There was this guy Hegel. He invented what is called dialectics. It can be summarized like contradictions are important; there is thesis, anti-thesis, and then you have synthesis. Okay... There is idealistic dialectics, materialistic, etc. And of course there are critics saying it's nonsense, that the only good logic is Aristotelian logic, and all this dialectics is just pure nonsense. I would like to have some hint. Should I study dialectic logic and Hegel?

A: Law of Three rules!

Q: (Arky) Law of three?

(Pierre) Thesis, antithesis, synthesis.

(Arky) Okay, I am done.

(Joe) On the water thing, is it best to do this with distilled water?

A: Yes

Q: (Galatea) I have a question that'll sound crazy. Is water similar to space?

A: Yes

Q: (Galatea) I knew it! [laughter]

(Pierre) Similar in what sense?

(L) It's like etheric.

(Galatea) Space is water?

A: Yes

Q: (Galatea) I knew it!

(L) So did the ancients. They called it The Waters Above.

(Galatea) Really?

(Joe) Can we make heavy water by talking to it?

(Arky) No, no, no. With water, this is very strange. I was reading about the experiments. So, first you talk to water, you test the water, and it makes it different. But then you have to be clever. If it is just information, you don't have to talk to water. You use the computer to convert your talk into a number. You print the number on the piece of paper, you put it on the bottle, and water should be smart enough because anyhow it's information! It's not your talk. It's somewhere, right? You put it on the label, and water knows what was your intention. Experiments were even done like that.

(Galatea) Water is the Google search of the universe.

A: Yes

Q: (Arky) You convert your talk to a number, like 1000, 2010, okay there's a number. Your language and intent is this number. But you can say something with good intentions, or with wrong intention. The algorithm is such that it may produce the same number for either. Yet, it seems that the water is smart enough that even if you put the same number on two bottles, but derived from different language and intent, it knows whether the intention was positive or negative!

(L) Even if the number is the same?!

(Arky) You see? So the information is somewhere. It's not really important what words you use or what you say exactly. You communicate in some way with the information field that is everywhere.

(Pierre) And the water has this special connection to the information field, and it knows what the number is related to.

(Arky) So your piece of paper is really the address of a piece of information.

A: Yes

(Andromeda) That's fascinating.

(Arky) Now, I would like to know because there are many different approaches. Sheldrake we know, but he's not a physicist; he's just talking fields, fields, fields, blah blah blah. I mean, what would be the best entry point in physics to this information field? Electromagnetics? Gravity? Quantum theory?

(Pierre) Light?

A: EM gravity.

Q: (Pierre) Electromagnetic gravity! [laughter]

(Scottie) No problem.

A: Make it your goal to make this hold in math.

Q: (Arky) Let me continue. [laughter] I was reading some words by this Russian-Israeli physicist. He was claiming that what was wrong with physics actually began with Maxwell because Maxwell introduces this concept of an abstract field, and electromagnetic field, to get rid of the concept of the ether. From Maxwell, it ALL went wrong! Even if Maxwell made the EM theory, it was already on the wrong way.

A: Just so! Ether is the interface between information and manifestation.

Q: (Arky) OH!

(Pierre) Because there's still a link between information on one side, and matter and energy on the other side. And once I asked this question. They mentioned "sphere arranged leptons", but I don't know what it means. It was way beyond my knowledge.

A: Gravity "travels" on ether.

Q: (Joe) Can we talk to the water in our bodies since they're 70% water?

A: It has already been propagandized!

Q: (L) So in other words, we have to start fresh with a fresh glass of water and send in the workers to controvert the evil propaganda.

A: Yes

Q: (Galatea) So can we talk to our water and say, "Hello water! Can you detox me even more today?"

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) Does adding salt to water make it extra-specially attentive?

A: Yes

Q: (Galatea) It's like coffee for water!

(L) Wake up your water with a little salt!

A: Yes


Q: (Pierre) It explains homeopathy as well. It works on an information level. You just need a little bit. You don't need it in high concentrations. And they know.

A: You have plenty to think about and experiment with. Keep eyes and ears open
Could mirrors be used or charged in a way to communicate with other people? Yes. - Does that mean the same could be said for water? Yes.
Session 16 September 2017
(Artemis) I wanted to revisit the mirror subject. Could mirrors be used or charged in a way to communicate with other people?

A: Yes


Q: (Artemis) So let's say that someone's stranded on an island. They pull out their compact mirror and they say, "Hey! Help me! I'm stranded on this island!" Could that work?

A: If there were a tuned receiver.

Q: (Artemis) So mirrors could be charged in a sense then. Is that what you're saying?

A: Yes

Q: (Artemis) So we could give people sets of mirrors that are charged, kind of like phones in case they need help?

A: A la Castaneda's Don Juan.

Q: (L) He gives the instructions for how to charge the mirror.

(Artemis) Okay, does that mean the same could be said for water?

A: Yes


Q: (Artemis) So if you're trapped on this island, you can just talk to the beach?

A: Yes

Q: (Artemis) Okay.

(Pierre) At high tide.

(Artemis) So if ever one of us is stranded, be close to a mirror or look at your water. [laughter] And just say, "Help me!"

(Joe) We need to test this! I'll strand myself out back in the fields. Heeelp! And I'll have a glass of water.

(Artemis) Well, it could be useful!
In the following session, there was more about water, which also has a question from Ark. In the answer they use the word, "structuring" which they also use in a later comment about water. In all the sessions to date, the word, structuring, only appears in this session. That is not to say there is a connection between what Ark ask about and what Pierre asked, but it is still noteworthy.

Structuring of water is good enough.
Session 30 January 2021
(Ark) My question is that in my research, related to the paper I've been writing for a year now, there appears a mathematical structure, an antisymmetric matrix or something like that. I believe it's important, but I don't know whether it's related to action of electromagnetic field, or gravitational field, or some kind of informational field. I have no clue and I would like to have a hint what it is doing this thing that is there and I don't know what kind of job it is doing?

(L) So, you're asking if it's informational, gravitational, or electromagnetic?

(Ark) Or something else.

A: Electromagnetism structured by information emitted by gravity.

Q: (Ark) Alright. [laughs]

A: Go deeper to find the structuring forces.

(Pierre) In a previous session, you said that in homeopathic remedies, the higher the dilution the more potent the effect is. Could you explain why the higher dilution makes it more potent?

(L) Couldn't you ask a question with a Yes or No answer? [laughter]

A: Structuring of water is good enough.
From the above excerpt, I am wondering if homeopathy with its shaking and dilution procedures is absolute necessity. Is it possible that one could so to say ask water to have a particular effect, as indicated in the session from Session 6 February 2016?

Does the hexagon of an ice crystal create a window?
To tie up this post in some way, water as a its solid ice crystal can be connected to a hexagon.
At ambient temperature and pressure, water molecules have a V shape. The two hydrogen atoms bond to the oxygen atom at a 105° angle.[3] Ice crystals have a hexagonal crystal lattice, meaning the water molecules arrange themselves into layered hexagons upon freezing.[1]

Slower crystal growth from colder and drier atmospheres produces more hexagonal symmetry.[2] Depending on environmental temperature and humidity, ice crystals can develop from the initial hexagonal prism into many symmetric shapes.[4] Possible shapes for ice crystals are columns, needles, plates and dendrites. Mixed patterns are also possible.[1]

They go on to describe the formation of trigonal and cubic crystals, which can form from supercooled water in the upper atmosphere. Then they go on to say:

Square crystals
Water can pass through laminated sheets of graphene oxide unlike smaller molecules such as helium. When squeezed between two layers of graphene, water forms square ice crystals at room temperature. Researchers believe high pressure and the van der Waals force, an attractive force present between all molecules, drives the formation. The material is a new crystalline phase of ice.[3][14]

Here is an image of how the water molecules are typically arranged in an ice crystal.
Ice_+H2O(s)+Water+has+many+different+crystal+forms;+the+hexagonal+ice+is+the+most+common..jpg

Above the white balls are hydrogen, and the red oxygen. The interaction indicated by the "springs" is called a hydrogen bond. The Wiki explains:
In chemistry, a hydrogen bond (H-bond) is a specific type of molecular interaction that exhibits partial covalent character and cannot be described as a purely electrostatic force. It occurs when a hydrogen (H) atom, covalently bonded to a more electronegative donor atom or group (Dn), interacts with another electronegative atom bearing a lone pair of electrons—the hydrogen bond acceptor (Ac). Unlike simple dipole–dipole interactions, hydrogen bonding arises from charge transfer (nB → σ*AH), orbital interactions, and quantum mechanical delocalization, making it a resonance-assisted interaction rather than a mere electrostatic attraction.[5]

The general notation for hydrogen bonding is Dn−H···Ac, where the solid line represents a polar covalent bond, and the dotted or dashed line indicates the hydrogen bond.[6] The most frequent donor and acceptor atoms are nitrogen (N), oxygen (O), and fluorine (F), due to their high electronegativity and ability to engage in stronger hydrogen bonding.

The term "hydrogen bond" is generally used for well-defined, localized interactions with significant charge transfer and orbital overlap, such as those in DNA base pairing or ice. In contrast, "hydrogen-bonding interactions" is a broader term used when the interaction is weaker, more dynamic, or delocalized, such as in liquid water, supramolecular assemblies (e.g.: lipid membranes, protein-protein interactions), or weak C-H···O interactions.
Here is an image that presents the hydrogen bonds in relation to the liquid and solid phases of water:
water expands when cooled b.gif
Does the structure of the molecules into a hexagon create an additional window apart from those inherent in the atoms themselves?
If there is this effect could one say that it is synergistic, in the sense of being a combined effect of the windows of the participating atoms?

To be continued...
 
With all the stories about graphene in the vax and graphene coming out of planes in the collective narrative, that doesn’t bode well, does it?

This may be silly, but it reminds me of Operators and Things …
Once a Thing’s latticework is removed, it’s mental state is one of extreme pliability, easily controlled by an Operator.
 
A few weeks ago, I revisited Session 5 February 2000, where an answer to Ark from the Cs included: "Look to stellar windows. Octagon, hexagon, pentagon." In a reply I posted some images of polygons as they appear in comon star constellations, like the Winter Hexagon, the Auriga Constellation (another hexagon), and the pentagon made up by some of the stars in the Orion constellation. Given that it was an answer to Ark, mathematical properties and tools with descriptive power will be involved and on a level that is removed from the shape of a constellation, but I was still fascinated by the discussion and the imagery. While writing the reply to the above session, I gathered other excerpts about windows, portals, and polygons, and since they did not fit, here we are and maybe the questions I wondered about will be solved, as the thread unfolds. This post moves from cosmic concept like stars to the level of atoms, molecules and their interactions.

For the initial context, here is the excerpt from Session 5 February 2000
Look to stellar windows. Octagon, hexagon, pentagon.

Above, there was "Look to stellar windows." In this regard, what about the sun?
The interior of the sun is a window.
Session 4 March 1995

From the sun to other spherical cosmic objects and their property of being a window, but a window for what? And this is where gravity comes in.
We have told you before that planets and stars are windows. And where does it go? - The windows? - The gravity.
Session 15 June 1996

Regarding: "Gravity supersedes light speed." there was a further clarification, that gravity is not instantaneous, but supersedes the speed of light.
Session 23 May 2020

"Light is energy expression generated by gravity", and gravity has consciousness and travels faster than the speed of light. Could that mean that if there is a gravity wave associated with a supernova, then it would influence life on Earth before the actual light is detectable?

In the following excerpt, there is an intriguing discussion, about water, space, ether and gravity.
Space is water? - Yes.
Water is the Google search of the universe. Yes.
Ether is the interface between information and manifestation. - Gravity "travels" on ether.

Session 6 February 2016

Could mirrors be used or charged in a way to communicate with other people? Yes. - Does that mean the same could be said for water? Yes.
Session 16 September 2017

In the following session, there was more about water, which also has a question from Ark. In the answer they use the word, "structuring" which they also use in a later comment about water. In all the sessions to date, the word, structuring, only appears in this session. That is not to say there is a connection between what Ark ask about and what Pierre asked, but it is still noteworthy.

Structuring of water is good enough.
Session 30 January 2021



From the above excerpt, I am wondering if homeopathy with its shaking and dilution procedures is absolute necessity. Is it possible that one could so to say ask water to have a particular effect, as indicated in the session from Session 6 February 2016?

Does the hexagon of an ice crystal create a window?
To tie up this post in some way, water as a its solid ice crystal can be connected to a hexagon.


They go on to describe the formation of trigonal and cubic crystals, which can form from supercooled water in the upper atmosphere. Then they go on to say:



Here is an image of how the water molecules are typically arranged in an ice crystal.
View attachment 107205

Above the white balls are hydrogen, and the red oxygen. The interaction indicated by the "springs" is called a hydrogen bond. The Wiki explains:

Here is an image that presents the hydrogen bonds in relation to the liquid and solid phases of water:
View attachment 107206
Does the structure of the molecules into a hexagon create an additional window apart from those inherent in the atoms themselves?
If there is this effect could one say that it is synergistic, in the sense of being a combined effect of the windows of the participating atoms?

To be continued...
It's not even clear whether you asked anything about what you've said, since you've answered your own questions.

In any case, the missing factor for all this to make sense is consciousness.
 

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