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The Grail Quest and The Destiny of Man: Part VI: A View of History from Us in the Future

The issue of “channeling” as a scientific experiment – utilizing information obtained by such a method – is problematical, to say the least. Again, we wish to reiterate that the “Cassiopaean Source” is NOT, and never has been, a dialogue with so-called “aliens” or “discarnate” beings as they are generally understood.

Again we mention the fact that nowadays, there are many individuals who approach very close to the border of pathology, promoting ideas, beliefs, and a great deal of nonsense, that is quite rightly labeled as “cultic.” We wish to reemphasize the fact that what we hold to be “accepted” religions – Judaism, Christianity, Islam – also must be rightly categorized as cults when scientific protocols are brought to bear upon them and the information that purports to proceed therefrom. As Thomas French wrote in his article about Laura:

Millions of Americans go to church every Sunday and contemplate a story about a man who was born 2,000 years ago, the son of a divine father and a human mother. This man, according to the story, grew up to raise the dead and perform other miracles until, at age 33, he was tortured and killed and then rose from the tomb to rejoin his father in heaven. Ever since then, one of the most sacred rituals of this story’s adherents is to symbolically drink the blood and consume the body of this son of God.

I intend no disrespect to those who have faith in this particular story. I grew up inside that faith myself; during the catechism classes of my Catholic childhood, I was taught that Communion is not symbolic at all, that every Sunday at Mass we truly do eat the body of Christ.

By any measure, that is a wild story.

It is not only a wild story, it is a dangerous one.

And so, the question is: why should anyone consider ANYTHING that is “channeled” as worthy of attention, much less a useful contribution to scientific research into the underlying nature of our reality?

If the claim is made that ALL channeling is “cultic” or “crap,” what is the answer to that?

Ark comments:

I can’t take such statements seriously.


I am a scientist. I look at things in a somewhat different way than other people. I am more critical. I am even more critical than most of my colleagues. So, when I see a statement like this “Any channeled information is crap. It is 100% disinformation” or “All channeling is disinformation” and “channeling is a satellite transmission,” I get very suspicious.

Why so?

I immediately see that this is plain nonsense – in THESE sentences. And when I see someone speaking nonsense in a couple of sentences, and when this somebody is so affirmative – THEN I can’t take this person seriously in all the rest.

What are the facts? What are the possibilities?

Alright, there is a possibility that some (most?) of the channeling TODAY comes via satellites or other means of programming. That IS possible.

The next question is : WHY?

The evident answer is: to twist, to disinform, via New Age-type naive people.

Can the Cassiopaean channeling come the same way?

It is not so easy. We are not naive. We are critical. We think, we analyze. We test and research.

Could SOME of our “communications” have been influenced this way?

YES. There is such a possibility.

Can ALL, or even 95% be received this way?

NO. Because there are too many instances in which the Cassiopaeans were “answering” questions to which normal “satellite type” of intelligence, without being able to instantly read the minds of everyone on this planet, could not have had access.

Therefore, I think, the statement that ALL channeling is crap and disinformation, and that 95% is via satellites shows that

  • a) Anyone who says this is either consciously disinforming or not able to think logically,
  • b) Anyone who says this is not interested in discovering the truth.

And this is the main difference between our approach and the approach of the many groups that rightly deserve the label “cult.”

While we are ready to question everything, and ALWAYS look for new facts, other individuals declare “WE KNOW THE TRUTH”. Here it is! And then we find one or another easily detectable nonsense statement that is claimed to be absolute, and this discredits everything else they say. [Laura’s note: this is doubly true for the “standard religions.”]

My Mother was “talking to spirits” using a porcelain dish. Spirits were “talking” to her. She was scared. She was not in the “new age”, she was a little old lady. There was no point for satellites to waste their energy and computing power to talk to my Mother – or many others like her in the times before satellites existed.

You see what I mean? There are REAL phenomena that deserve investigation. And the devil, as always, is in the details.

Whenever someone claims: “All white is black” – I get suspicious. And I am turned off to everything else they say. Not because “white being black” is impossible, we know there ARE paradoxes, but BECAUSE the person uses this three letter word: “all”.

As for satellites trying, once in a while, their dirty tricks – yes this is possible. And we ARE taking it into account. But ALWAYS we are trying to apply our best logical thinking, our best “judgment”. And although logic and judgment as a reality check is NEVER SUFFICIENT when dealing with possible “higher forces,” yet it is ALWAYS NECESSARY. Which means, in practical terms:


What I want to state clearly is: this “channeling”, the Cassiopaean Experiment, IS different than other channelings.

It was different from the very beginning, it continues to be so, and it will continue to be different. We may give it a name: Critical Channeling. It is such by an intent, not by a chance.

The Cassiopaean Experiment is a form of channeling in which, by an intent, the messenger is as important as the message itself. They are inseparably entangled in a quantum way; an interfering quantum amplitude. They form a oneness, a whole. To separate the message from the messenger would be, in this Cassiopaean quantum experiment, like closing one hole in a double slit experiment. You close one hole, and the whole pattern is different, not just a part of it.

What is this “Critical Channeling?” In what way is it different than other channeling?

It would take a lot of space and time to describe it in details. One day we will do it. But for now, let me just make this observation: the Cassiopaean channeling has characteristics of a scientific experiment.

Think of us as we actually are: scientists in their lab, working on the great laws of the universe. They perform an important series of experiments. They are trained professionals, they know their stuff, they know their laboratory equipment and its quirks. But they are human beings. Once in a while someone will make some silly joke, once in a while they will have to discard a series of data, because mice have messed up their equipment during the night.

Now, think, what advantage it would be if they would write in their paper the silly joke, include the mice data, the ink blobs etc. etc?

That is not the way of science. And the Cassiopaean experiment will proceed as a scientific one. With scientific standards and a continuous critical attitude in mind.

The Cassiopaean channeling is indeed a Critical Channeling. It is in this respect that it is DIFFERENT from other channeling. And it will stay so.

The difference is in the approach.

We are searching for the truth. Many others – including purveyors of “tradition” – are sure that they know “the truth” and they would like to impose it on other people, or manipulate other people, into believing what they say with no critical thinking or research or experimentation at all.

Traditional religions generally proclaim that their truth comes from “God,” or aliens or something “out there.” But when someone else dares to have a different way of finding the truth – it is necessarily “100% disinformation” and “crap” or a “cult.”

We try to share our thoughts, and when necessary, we are ready to learn and CHANGE. And that is what is most important: this attitude of being open.

What if the “traditional religions” or claims that experiments in channeling are disinformation are right? Even if I consider it as highly improbable, what if it is correct? Can it be true?

Of course, being a scientist, and using my brain in order to judge, I had to consider also this possibility, however improbable it may it look to me. And I concluded that it cannot be right.

Here is my reasoning: it goes via “reductio ad absurdum” – which is often used in logic and in mathematical proofs. You assume something to be true, and then by a chain of logical deductions you come to the conclusion that your assumption cannot be true. Somewhat tricky – but useful.

Let’s apply this method to the claim that “all channeling is 100% disinformation because it is coming via satellite”. Let us suppose it is true. In order to be true it must include the capability of reading and controlling EVERYBODY’S mind at ALL times.
But if that is the case, then why would anyone be exempt from this control?

Therefore, by logic, anyone making such a claim is also being influenced by programming and by satellites (if everybody is, then so is the one making the claim). If so, then what such a person says is skewed. And, because he is so loud, and so sure, about this subject, for no valid reason, it is a logical conclusion that what he is telling is NOT true, that it is disinformation.

So we see that starting from the assumption that anyone making such a claim is right (satellites affect everybody) we come to the conclusion that what such a claim is wrong (because the claimant is simply repeating the satellite disinformation).

So, here we have reductio ad absurdum.

But we can go even further. Can we see a reason why anyone would say such evident nonsense? Why?

Well, here we can have a hypothesis too.

If, as we know by the above analysis, NOT ALL channeling is from satellites, that SOME channeling can provide us with real information from “benevolent higher beings”, from “us in the future”, from a “Divine Inspiration”, or from “Mind-God and Oversoul”, call it as you will, then it is only natural that there will be forces trying to discredit Critical, Scientific Channeling.

So, we have solved one problem here. Those individuals who claim that ALL channeling is disinformation or symptomatic of a “cultic agenda,” then we have reason to suppose that any promoter of such a view is obviously an agent of those very forces.

There is one more exercise in logical reasoning and critical thinking that comes to mind.

Most people are not really clear about what channeling is, so let me take as a particular example using the Ouija board, as described on our pages.

Why do we use Ouija board?

The reason is quite simple: we use an instrument to screen out the external disturbance, the “noise.” In particular, the use of a board type instrument makes it more difficult for satellites, or other programming signals coming from human and hybrid technology, when and if they come, to affect the message.

When using a board, at least two persons are needed for operation. There are no rituals, no beliefs. As is the case with proper scientific protocols, there is full awareness, the utilization of critical thinking, sometimes jokes, often coffee, fresh minds, loud discussion, and the board – questions and answers, followed by research and analysis.

Thinking in terms of possible quantum physics involved in mind-matter interactions, it is clear to me that the methods we use are more likely to be robust and shielded against deliberate bombarding from outside by mind controlling signals. On the other hand, talking directly to “Mind-God” as some claim to do, is more susceptible to interference.

For example, a weak outside EM signal can be talking directly to a tiny implant in our teeth, and we will take it for our “Oversoul”….

Or, as Laura has pointed out: When Yahweh spoke through his channels, the activity was “divine inspiration.” When anybody else “channeled,” it was necromancy or demonic possession, or even just out and out deception. This was because Jehovah/Yahweh claimed to be the only god and that this was true simply because Jehovah/Yahweh said so via channeling – which, by Jahovah/Yahweh’s definition was necromancy, demonic possession, or deception.

Again, applying our ruductio ad absurdum to standard religions, we might think that the monotheistic cults prevalent over the planet today may have been “created” for the express purpose of “demonizing” scientific, Critical channeling.

So, by logical thinking and by critical analysis we came to a working hypothesis.

But, please, do not jump to the conclusion that we solved all problems. Important problems are still out there and need to be addressed. The above analysis does not tell us at all WHICH channeling (if any at all) is legitimate. It gives indications. To answer this question a full analysis, that takes into account not one but many aspects, is necessary.

Completely different methods must be used. If A is an opponent of B, and if we find that A is wrong, that does not mean that B is right! To see whether B is right or not – is a different problem.

Let me just note that we were discussing many times C’s channeling, on these pages and with other groups, and even our “attackers” have admitted openly that the C’s have an amazing record.

There are three very important things to remember while reading this information. The first is to consider the difficulty of receiving absolutely uncorrupted information due to the prejudices, expectations, and anticipation of those present. The second is the “time” factor that we have already discussed at some length. If, in fact, time is subjective and variable as well as amenable to manipulation by “time travellers” who do not have our best interests at heart, it is entirely likely that certain scientific “measurements” could be part of this manipulation in any number of ways. And, the third and last is, our measuring systems for ancient things are, in general, based upon the idea that everything is pretty stable in our world and our solar system and our cosmos. If that is NOT the case, then we have almost no way of dating anything!

Q: (L) Is the carbon 14 dating process fairly accurate?
A: To an extent.
Q: (L) What is its major weakness?
A: Same as yours.
Q: (L) Which is?
A: “Time” does not exist. A: Radio carbon dating is not exact science.

Q: (A) Scientific dating methods. Are they incorrect by a factor of two prior to 10,000 years as L has suggested? We observe a factor of 2 variation in the scientific dating versus your dating. This is a repeating phenomenon on nearly all dates you have given.
A: “They” fail to take into effect the influence of magnetic aberrations caused by ancient cataclysms.
Q: (L) How can these magnetic aberrations affect scientific dating?
A: By altering the isotopal imprints of matter.
Q: So, the last cataclysm of about 1500 B.C….
A: All of them scramble the radiological data because of magnetic surges.

Q: (L) Regarding the “Fall” in Eden and the loss of the Edenic state, how long ago did that happen?
A: 309000 years ago approx.
Q: (L) What was the situation… what happened… what was the state of mankind?
A: Loss of faith caused knowledge and physical restrictions by outside forces.
Q: (L) What did the snake or the “tempter” represent?
A: Forces known to you as Lizzies.
Q: (L) The Sumerian story of the creation of human beings involves a story where they say they killed a god and mixed his blood and parts to mix with mud and then planted it in these female “gestation” goddesses and that this is where the human race came from. Did someone actually kill a “god”, break his soul in pieces, and thereby make the human race?
A: Symbolism and not correct event sequence.
Q: (L) What was that story about? What was the real seed event?
A: Lizard beings genetically altering the human race after battle for their own feeding purposes.
Q: (L) When did these events that these Sumerian stories are talking about take place?
A: 309000 years ago, approx.
Q: (L) So, it happened so long ago that these stories have lost the truth?
A: Reflection passed down through psychic memory channel.

Q: Okay. The ‘Fall’ occurred. It seems like, and some of the archaeological studies indicate, that for many thousands of years, there was a peaceful existence and a nice agrarian society where the goddess or female creative forces were worshipped. At least, this is what a lot of present-day books are proposing…
A: No. These events took place 309000 years ago, as you measure it. This is when the first prototype of what you call “modern man” was created. The controllers had the bodies ready, they just needed the right soul matrix to agree to “jump in.”
Q: So, prior to this time, this prior Edenic state…
A: Was more like 4th density.
Q: So, was there any kind of worship of God, or religious activity in this pre-Fall state; this Edenic, 4th density state?
A: No need when one has a clue.
Q: What I am trying to get at here, what I am trying to understand, is the transition from the goddess worship to the god worship; the change from the understanding of cyclical time as expressed in the feminine cycles, and expressed as the goddess; to the concept of linear time, expressed as the masculine principle. It seems to me that these were stages of inversion of concepts which gradually led to the ideas that the Lizzies are imposing on us, and seem to have been working in this direction for millennia – the dominator experience which expresses as: believe in something outside yourself that will save you, otherwise you are damned because the world is gonna end, and you are going to get judged. This is the concept I am trying to deal with here. I am trying to understand what was worshipped. Okay, we had these guys; they fell from Eden, but they were still fairly close to the original concepts, in some terms. Once they jumped into the physical bodies, as you put it, what was their level of conceptualization regarding the universe? Did they still retain some understanding at that point?
A: Kind of like the understanding one has after severe head trauma, vis a vis your normal understanding in your current state.
Q: So, they were traumatized; they may have had bits and pieces of ideas and memories, but they may also have lost a great deal altogether. There may have even been a sort of “coma” state of mankind for many millennia. But, after they woke up, with the bits and pieces floating around in their heads, they may have begun to attempt to piece it all together. So, they started putting it all back together. What was the first thing they put together regarding the cosmos around them?
A: Sex.
Q: What did they decide about sex? I mean, sex was there. They were having sex. Is that it? Or, did they understand the cosmos as sex?
A: More like the former. After all, that is what got you guys in this mess in the first place! Just imagine the sales job if you can: “Look how much fun this is! Want to try it?!? Oops, sorry, we forgot to tell you, you cannot go back!”
Q: I really fail to understand – and I know it is a big issue that has been hinted at and alluded to, and outright claims have been made regarding sex in all religions and mythologies – but I fail to understand the mechanics of how this can be the engineering of a ‘fall.’ What, precisely, are the mechanics of it? What energy is generated? How is it generated? What is the conceptualization of the misuse of this energy, or the use of the energy?
A: It is simply the introduction of the concept of self-gratification of a physical sort.
Q: On many occasions you have said that the ideal thing is to have perfect balance of physicality and ethereality. This has been said on a number of occasions. Now, I don’t understand how it can be that gratification of a physical body can be the mechanics by which one is entrapped? Is it not gratifying to look at something beautiful? Is it wrong, sinful, or a form of a fall, to look at beauty, to hear something beautiful such as music, or to touch something that is sensually delightful such as a piece of silk or the skin of a loved one? These various things that the human being derives pleasure from very often elevate them to a spiritual state.
A: Possession is the key.
Q: What do you mean?
A: In STS, you possess.

So, we may speculate that this “Dominator Model” has existed for a very long time. And, if that is the case, what happened then? How does Atlantis come into the picture? It is clear that 300,000 years is a VERY long time; time enough for several civilizations to rise and fall! And, in fact, it seems that exactly that is part of the legends, the mythology, the folklore of our planet!

And here is where we come to some very interesting things.

Q: (L) Were Atlantis and Lemuria the most ancient of Earth’s civilizations?
A: No.
Q: (L) What advanced civilizations were before Atlantis and Lemuria?
A: Many.
Q: (L) Was there an ancient advanced civilization located in the area we now call Antarctica?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) What was the name of this civilization?
A: Gor.
Q: (L) What kind of individuals lived in Gor?
A: 18 feet tall.
Q: (L) Were they humanoid and did they look like us?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Were they male and female like us?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And did they have space travel capabilities?
A: No interest.
Q: (L) Are there any remains of their civilization left?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Did they only inhabit Antarctica?
A: No.
Q: (L) Did they inhabit the whole world?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Where might the remains be found
A: South America. Amazon. Ancient legend of Amazons.
Q: (L) Do any of our scientists know any of this?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Are there remains of Atlantis and Lemuria?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Do any of our scientists know of any of those?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Are they withholding information on purpose?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Do they have relics of these stored?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is the cluster of fragments in between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter the remains of a planet?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) What was that planet known as?
A: Kantek.
Q: (L) When did that planet break apart into the asteroid belt.
A: 80 thousand years ago approximately. .

Q: (L) You said the other night that there was a planet between Mars and Jupiter that was destroyed and became the asteroid belt. Was this planet ever inhabited by sentient beings?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) What caused this planet to be destroyed?
A: Psychic energy.
Q: (L) And where did the beings come from that lived on this planet? Did they evolve there?
A: No.
Q: (L) Were they also, like us, created beings?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Who created them?
A: Same. Sixth Density.
Q: (L) The planet that was destroyed between Jupiter and Mars, you said was destroyed by psychic energy?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) What was the source of this psychic energy?
A: Beings inhabiting the planet.
Q: (L) Did any of those beings leave that planet and come to earth?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Who were they? Were they humans like us?
A: Blond and blue eyed descendants. Eye pigment was because planet was farther from Sol.
Q: (L) How did the people of that planet come to earth? Did they know it was going to be destroyed?
A: Some knew and were taken by Lizzies and they are the Annunaki.
Q: (L) What is the origin of the Aryan race?
A: 5th planet now know as asteroid belt.
Q: (L) When did they come to earth?
A: 80 thousand years ago, approximately.
Q: (L) Were they similar in form and structure to what they are now?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Why is it that our scientists have not been able to uncover evidence of such ancient existence?
A: They have. Do not want to acknowledge it.
Q: (L) Where do the Celts come from?
A: Same. Ferocious people. Came from fifth planet. “Celtic,” what does it mean?
Q: (L) Well, the word “kilt” comes from “Celtic,” but no one seems to know where they originated… they just sort of appeared on the landscape, so to speak.
A: Exactly!
Q: (L) So, there is some interesting connection! (RC) Does it mean “warrior race?”
A: If you prefer! We have close affiliation with the “Northern Peoples.” Why? Because we were in regular, direct contact with them on Kantek, before they were “lifted” to Earth by Orion STS.
Q: (L) If you were in direct contact with them, how come they were in cahoots with the Orion STS bunch?
A: Who says they are in “kahoots?”
Q: (L) Weren’t they rescued by the Orion STS?
A: Yes. But one need not be in “kahoots” to be rescued!!!
Q: (L) If the Orion STS brought the Celts here, were the Celts, while they lived on Kantek, in the form they are in now?
A: They were lighter in appearance.
Q: (L) I want to know why there is such an adversarial attitude between the Jews and the Celts and Aryans?
A: It is not just between the Jews and Celts, if you will take notice. Besides, it is the individual aural profile that counts and not groupings or classifications. But, to answer your question: there are many reasons both from on and off the planet.
Q: (L) Going in a different direction for a moment, why was Hitler so determined, beyond all reason, even to his own self-destruction, to annihilate the Jews?
A: Many reasons and very complex. But, remember, while still a child, Hitler made a conscious choice to align himself with the “forces of darkness,” in order to fulfill his desires for conquest and to unite the Germanic peoples. Henceforth, he was totally controlled, mind, body, and soul, by STS forces.
Q: (L) So, what were the purposes of the STS forces that were controlling Hitler causing him to desire to annihilate an entire group of people?
A: To create an adequate “breeding ground” for the reintroduction of the Nephalim, for the purpose of total control of the 3rd density earth prior to elevation to 4th density, where such conquest is more difficult and less certain!
Q: (L) Do you mean “breeding ground” in the sense of genetic breeding?
A: Yes. Third density.
Q: (L) Did they accomplish this goal?
A: No.
Q: (L) So, the creation of the Germanic “Master Race” was what they were going after, to create this “breeding ground?”
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And, getting rid of the Jews was significant? Couldn’t a Germanic master race be created without destroying another group?
A: No.
Q: Why?
A: Because of 4th density prior encoding mission destiny profile.
Q: (L) What does that mean?
A: This means encoding to activate after elevation to 4th density, thus if not eliminated, negates Nephalim domination and absorption. Jews were prior encoded to carry out mission after conversion, though on individual basis. The Nazis did not exactly know why they were being driven to destroy them, because they were being controlled from 4th density STS. But, Hitler communicated directly with Lizards, and Orion STS, and was instructed on how to create the “master race.”
Q: (L) And they were going to use this as their basis to introduce a new blend of the Nephilim… Obviously if the Lizard Beings thought that the Aryans/Celts were a good breeding ground for this “Nephilim Master Race,” then it must be because there is something genetically inherent in them that makes them desirable in this sense. Is this correct?
A: No, not in the sense you are thinking. We suggest that you rephrase this question after careful reflection on the implications.

Q: (L) I have thought about my question from the last session and I want to ask it this way: You have said that Hitler received instructions from higher density beings about creating a ‘Master Race.’ Why were the Aryan genetic types seen to be more desirable for creation of this Germanic ‘master race?’
A: Both, similarity and ancestral link most unblemished from Orion 3rd and 4th density stock.
Q: (L) So they were essentially trying to breed a group of people like themselves?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Okay, what is it about the Semitic genes that was considered to be so undesirable in the creation of this ‘Master Race?’
A: Would blemish genetic characteristics inclined to ruthlessness and domination.
Q: (L) So, you are saying that there is something, some genetic tendency or set of genes in the Semitic type that would counteract this?
A: Close.
Q: (L) But isn’t the nature of a person determined by their soul and not the physical body?
A: Partially, remember, aural profile and karmic reference merges with physical structure.
Q: (L) So you are saying that particular genetic conditions are a physical reflection of a spiritual orientation? That the soul must match itself to the genetics, even if only in potential?
A: Yes, precisely.
Q: (L) So a person’s potential for spiritual advancement or unfoldment is, to a great extent, dependent upon their genes?
A: Natural process marries with systematic construct when present. The Nordic Covenant was a duality. All persons of Nordic heritage hold secret power centers, can be of darkness, or of light.

This mention of a “Nordic Covenant” sort of went right past us! But, it later became VERY significant! A most mysterious clue!

Q: (L) What is the origin of the Cabala?
A: Channeled truths given to early pre-Mosaic Jews to use your terminology.
Q: (L) When the Jewish commentators began setting down the teachings, was this the first time this had been put into writing?
A: No. Not even close.
Q: (L) Is the form that it is in today very close to the original form and can it be relied upon?
A: No. Corrupted.
Q: (L) What is the origin of the books of Enoch?
A: Sanskritian society in area now referred to as India.
Q: (L) What evaluation can we give the books of Enoch as far as level of truth?
A: 50% The area was destroyed in nuclear conflagration in between then and now in the expanded present.
Q: (L) What is the “expanded” present?
A: The real measure of time.

Q: (L) What are the differences between the Celts and the Aryans?
A: Geographic and cultural.
Q: (L) Are there any differences inherent from the former planetary home?
A: No. Post arrival difference development.
Q: (L) Were they the same prior to arrival?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Was Mars ever inhabited?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) By whom?
A: By those you now know as Sasquatch or Bigfoot.
Q: (L) Do they now live on this planet as a result of being brought here by other beings?
A: They are transitory. Do not inhabit on a permanent basis.
Q: (L) Well, how do they come and go?
A: They are the slaves and “pets” of the Lizard Beings.

Q: (L) Is there any such thing as racial superiority regarding the races on the planet earth?
A: Only karmically determined by physical confinement assignment.
Q: (L) It can be karmically determined to be born into one race or another?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Are the Aryan/Celts who came to this planet from the other one that was destroyed, were they, when they came, in any way superior to the humans already here?
A: Somewhat.
Q: (L) What was the nature of this superiority?
A: Durability.
Q: (L) Physical or mental?
A: Physical.
Q: (L) Well, blond haired, blue-eyed people seem to be somewhat more delicate or thin-skinned compared to, say, the supposed indigenous groups.
A: In this environment on surface.
Q: (L) Which race on earth is the oldest?
A: All are same.
Q: (L) Even the Aryan/Celts from the other planet?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Was there ever a time in history when Kantek, Martek, and Earth were all three occupied by sentient races which communicated with one another?
A: No.
Q: (L) Was there ever a time in history when all three planets were occupied simultaneously?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Why are there different races?
A: Many reasons. Experimental creations. Partly.
Q: (L) Where did the Orientals come from?
A: Same as all others. Result of experimentation.
Q: (L) Did they originate on this planet? Are they native to this planet?
A: Both. Orientals reserved for souls most advanced; Aryans most aggressive; Negroes most naturally attuned to earth vibrational frequency. So are “native Americans”.
Q: (L) Is Caucasian different from Aryan or Celtic?
A: Aryan subgroup: Caucasian.
Q: (L) Who were the blue skinned people written about in the Vedas?
A: Aryans.
Q: (L) Were the Aryans originally blue skinned?
A: No.
Q: (L) Why did the Vedas talk about blue-skinned people and why are there blue skinned people in remote areas of the Appalachians?
A: Are whites real “white”?
Q: (L) Were there ever any really blue people?
A: No. They were perceived as blue due to thinness of skin and contrast with native population.

Q: When did the Aryans invade India?
A: 8243 years ago.
Q: Who was there before that?
A: Asian tribes and number 3 prototype.
Q: What is a number 3 prototype?
A: Known as Neanderthal man.
Q: And what are we?
A: Number 4 types c and d. Translation into English comprehension.
Q: Were the Aryan/Celts the original giants?
A: No.
Q: Let’s back up here. You said that the Celts came from Kantek. They were transported by the Lizzies… brought here, correct?
A: Yes.
Q: When the Lizzies did this, how many Celts were physically brought here?
A: Hundreds of millions.
Q: How long, in our terms, did it take to bring these Celts to this planet?
A: Well, in the sense that you measure it, let us say about a week.
Q: Did they transport them in ships, that is some sort of structure. That is, did they load them up, move them into 4th density, reemerge here in 3rd density, or something like that?
A: Close.
Q: And they unloaded them in the area of the Caucasus, is that correct?
A: And regions surrounding.
Q: And, that was what, 79 to 80 thousand years ago?
A: Over 80,000.
Q: As I understand it from other literature, such as Cayce, Atlantis was already quite a developed civilization at that time, is that correct?
A: Yes, but regions change with waves of immigration, or conquest… witness your own lands.
Q: You also said once that there was a nuclear war in India and that this was what was being discussed in the Vedas when it talks about the ‘blue-skinned’ people who weren’t really blue because they were Celts, and they were flying in aircraft, and they were engaged in this war, etc. Who were the Celts at war with?
A: The Paranthas.
Q: Now, wait a minute! Who are the Paranthas?! Do we have a new player here?
A: Not new. Atlantis was merely a home base of an advanced civilisation of 3 races of humans occupying different sections of a huge Island empire, which, in itself, underwent 3 incarnations over a 100,000 year period as you would measure it.
Q: The 3 races were the Celts… and who were the second and third?
A: Or Kantekkians.
Q: Are the Kantekkians different from the Celts?
A: Only in the sense of long term racial and genetic blending.
Q: So, Atlantis had the Kantekkians and who else?
A: Race you would call “Native Americans,” and a third, no longer existing race, somewhat resembling Australian or Guinean aborigines, only lighter in complexion.
Q: Was this third group destroyed by the other two?
A: One of the 3 cataclysms.
Q: Paranthas. Who were the Paranthas?
A: Nation of race mentioned above.
Q: So, the Paranthas were the antecedents of the Abos of Australia?
A: Yes, and compare to now existing peoples of India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Australia, and New Guinea for similarities, bearing in mind genetic mixing and dilution.
Q: Were the Vedas written by the Paranthas or written by the Celts?
A: Descendants of Parantha, as per “Divine guidance.”
Q: That explains a LOT. Okay, I think that you said that this nuclear war happened something like 50,000 years ago. We have taken care of a couple of points; we have 3 races on Atlantis, Celts all over the place… did the Celts conquer the Atlanteans?
A: No. They took over the Northern section.
Q: At the same time, there were Celts in the Caucasus, along the Baltic, in Ireland, England and Europe…
A: Ireland, England, etc. was later.
Q: But there were in the Norse lands, as Sweden, Norway and Denmark, they were along the Baltic, and they were in the Caucasus?
A: Some above mentioned areas were ice covered.
Q: When the philologists track the language roots, they arrive at the Kurgan region, north and west of the Caucasus. Is that where the Celts went when Atlantis was destroyed?
A: Close.
Q: Were the Celts the tall blonds known as the ‘Sons of Anak,’ who ruled over the Sumerians as described by Sitchin?
A: “Celts” are what remains of the original prototype. Gravity differences account for the height difference
Q: When did the Celts or Kantekkians first take up residence in the British Isles?
A: 12,000 years ago.
Q: Were the Picts also Celts?
A: No, Atlantean. Remember, “Celt” is latter day moniker.
Q: Were the Picts Kantekkians?
A: Originally.
Q: Was Abraham a Kantekkian or a derivation?
A: Latter. But, so are you.
Q: Were the Jews that were genetically engineered and then planted in the Middle East… what year was this?
A: 130,000 years ago.
Q: Good grief! Have they managed to retain any racial purity for that long?
A: No.
Q: Cayce talks about the division in Atlantis between the “Sons of One” and the “Sons of Belial.” Was this a racial division or a philosophical/ religious division?
A: It was the latter two, and before that, the former one.
Q: When it was a racial division, which group was it?
A: The Sons of Belial were the Kantekkians.
Q: Well! That is not good!
A: Subjective… you are not bodies, you are souls.
Q: You said that there is a group with whom you have been in contact since they were on Kantek. Is this group the Druids?
A: No. We will not as of yet identify.
Q: Well, I came to the conclusion that the Rosicrucians are just the new incarnation of the Druids. I mean, the Druids disappeared and the Rosicrucians appeared not too long afterward.
A: Partially.
Q: Julius Caesar had a standard policy of religious toleration. The only exception seems to have been the Druids. He was determined to stamp them out. Why?
A: Their mysterious powers.
Q: Where did they get these mysterious powers?
A: Knowledge passed down. .

Q: (L) Was the story of Noah’s flood the story of the breaking up of Atlantis?
A: Yes. But symbolic.
Q: (L) How many people were on the planet at that time?
A: 6 billion.
Q: (L) Out of this six billion people, how many survived?
A: 119 million.
Q: (L) Was Noah’s flood caused by the close passage of another celestial body?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Which body was that?
A: Martek.
Q: (L) Do we know this body in our solar system now?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) What name?
A: Mars.
Q: (L) Was Martek an inhabited planet at that time?
A: No.
Q: (L) Did it have water or other features?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) When it passed close to the earth did it, in fact, overload our planet with water we did not have prior to that time?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Did we, prior to that time, have a water-vapor canopy surrounding our planet?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) How many years ago did the flood of Noah occur?
A: 12656.
Q: (L) Was Noah an actual historical person?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Which is the older civilization: Sumerian or Egyptian?
A: Sumerian.
Q: (L) Who were Enlil and Enki, of Sumerian stories?
A: Great teachers.
Q: (L) Were they human or extraterrestrial?
A: Extraterrestrial.
Q: (L) Who were the Annunaki?
A: Aliens.
Q: (L) Where were they from?
A: Zeta Reticuli.

Q: (L) What land did the symbolic Noah live in, what continent?
A: Atlantis.
Q: (L) Where did the symbolic ark of this symbolic Noah land after the receding of the waters?
A: Egypt.
Q: (L) What caused Martek to pass close to the earth at that time since that was many thousands of years before the Venus interaction as described by Velikovsky?
A: Planetary alignment gravitational aberration related to Venus.
Q: (L) So, there was a planetary line-up that caused Mars to be pulled out of its orbit?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) What was the event a hundred or so years after the flood of Noah that was described as the confusing of languages, or the tower of Babel?
A: Spiritual confluence.
Q: (L) What purpose did the individuals who came together to build the tower intend for said tower?
A: Electromagnetic concentration of all gravity waves.
Q: (L) And what did they intend to do with these concentrated waves?
A: Mind alteration of masses.
Q: (L) What intention did they have in altering the mind of the masses?
A: Spiritual unification of the masses.
Q: (L) Who were the “gods” that looked down on the tower of Babel, at those who were building it with the intention of unification, and decided to destroy their works?
A: Lizards.
Q: (L) Okay, so the Lizzies blew up the tower of Babel. What else did they do to the minds of mankind; did they do something causing literal disruption of their understanding of language?
A: Close.
Q: (L) What tool did they use to accomplish this divisiveness?
A: Brainwashing of masses.
Q: (L) Did they do this through implants and abduction?
A: Partly.
Q: (L) What is the true meaning, the original meaning, of the Hebrew word “shem”?
A: Purity.
Q: (L) Why was this word related to the obelisks or standing stones later called “shems” by the Hebrews?
A: Symbolic of purity, unification, uniformity.
Q: (L) Did these stones themselves actually possess any power?
A: Residual.
Q: (L) What object were the ancients going to place in the tower of Babel to…
A: Crystal.
Q: (L) Is “shem” also synonomous with “crystal”?
A: Close.
Q: (L) How were Sodom and Gomorrah destroyed and the other cities of the plain? And by whom?
A: Nuclear; EM pulse. Who else?
Q: (L) The lizzies?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Why?
A: To implant fear and obedience.
Q: (L) Weren’t the Sodom and Gomorrans really evil and bad doing sodomy and Gomorrahy?
A: That is a deception of history.
Q: (L) Did Lot’s wife get turned into a pillar of salt?
A: No.
Q: (L) Was the god who communicated with Abraham one of the Lizzies?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Was the pact that Abraham made, made with the Lizzies?
A: Yes, but not directly.
Q: (L) Was Melchizidek a priest of the Lizzies?
A: No.
Q: (L) Did Melchizidek know the truth and impart it to Abraham, and Abraham then rejected it and made his own “covenant?”
A: Close.
Q: (L) What is the source of the Native American Indians?
A: Atlantis to Asia.
Q: (L) They came across the Bering Strait?
A: No. Rescued. Transferred.
Q: (L) By whom?
A: Grays.
Q: (L) What were they rescued out of?
A: Cataclysm.
Q: (L) When did that cataclysm occur?
A: 7200 years ago approximately.
Q: (L) What was the nature of that cataclysm?
A: Comets.
Q: (L) Is this when they were given all their legends about the Pleiades, and the “star people” and so forth?
A: Yes, but it was confused with other more ancient knowledge.
Q: (L) Where do the Basques come from?
A: Atlantis.
Q: (L) Is their language the Atlantean language?
A: Derivative.
Q: (L) Which came first, the Sumerians or the Egyptians.
A: Sumerians.
Q: (L) Where did the Egyptians come from?
A: Atlantis.
Q: (L) Which came first, the Sumerians or Atlanteans?
A: Atlanteans.
Q: (L) Were the Sumerians a high civilization at the same time the Atlanteans were?
A: After.
Q: (L) Did the Atlanteans go to Sumeria and afterwards go to Egypt?
A: Travelled. The Atlanteans set up outposts in Sumeria. When Atlantis was destroyed, the main Atlanteans moved to Egypt and elsewhere.
Q: (L) Where else did the Atlanteans go?
A: Americas. Inca. Aztec. Maya. Hopi Tribe. Pima tribe.

Q: We would like to know what is the origin of the Gypsies.
A: Gene spliced slaves of dark forces.
Q: Who are these dark forces?
A: Brotherhood.
Q: Does this brotherhood consist of Lizzies and various humans?
A: Yes.
Q: If the Gypsies were gene spliced, who were they gene spliced with?
A: Alien race, humanoid, and Atlantean drone workers.
Q: What were Atlantean drone workers?
A: Slave people controlled by crystal.
Q: There are legends of half human creatures, minotaurs, centaurs, etc. Were any of these creatures real?
A: Experiments known as beasts in Atlantis.
Q: Who built the city of Baalbek?
A: Atlanteans and early Sumerians.
Q: What is the reason for the enormous proportions of this building?
A: Giants.
Q: Who were the giants?
A: Genetic effort to recreate Nephalim.
Q: Did the Atlanteans and Sumerians succeed in recreating the Nephilim?
A: No. Retarded subjects. Project took only three years. Speeded up growth cycle using nuclear hormonal replication procedure. Why failed.
Q: That’s why it failed, because of the speeded up growth?
A: Did not take properly.
Q: What technical means did they use to cut the stones and transport them?
A: Sound wave focusing.
Q: What happened to interrupt or halt the building of this city?
A: Venus first appearance and pass.
Q: What year was this project brought to a halt?
A: 3218 B.C.
Q: Who built the city of Mohenjo-Daro?
A: Lizards directly. Coatzlmundi legend ties in to this directly look at illustrations on stones now.
Q: Who is Coatzlmundi?
A: Other deity of the Lizards worshipped by the Atlanteans and their descendants because of the direct contact with humans for 1000 years.
Q: Now, you said Mohenjo Daro was built by the Lizzies directly. Did they occupy this city themselves?
A: No.
Q: When was this city last inhabited continually?
A: 3065 years ago.
Q: When was it built?
A: 6092 years ago.

Now that we have a rather broad background of history, we need to zoom in on several aspects of that history that bear strongly on our present and future. I hope you noticed the remark about that the mysterious “Nordic Covenant”

Q: (L) So a person’s potential for spiritual advancement or unfoldment is, to a great extent, dependent upon their genes?
A: Natural process marries with systematic construct when present. […] The Nordic Covenant was a duality. All persons of Nordic heritage hold secret power centers, can be of darkness, or of light.

And here we may find some secrets about the interplay of the “Dominator Model” versus the “Partnership Model” otherwise known as the Service to Self and Service to Others soul configuration. It seems that there IS a group of the latter that has existed down through the ages, assisting and sharing with those of humanity who have achieved a certain level of development, and who have asked – TRULY ASKED – for help in expanding their knowledge base so that they can overcome the World Matrix of control and deception.